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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-02-2006, 03:10 AM Thread Starter
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Okay i own an 06 yfz and i was wondering if any ltr 450 owners have raced a yfz yet. If so what was the terrain, sand etc. Didn't want to register on other site. Also i would appreciate honest reply's no b.s or trash talk. I know this is a suzuki site so i can take some of the yami bashings but im just curious to how the two compare. Thanks

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In all honesty i don't think any of our current members have one. They actually were'nt supposed to be available until Feb 6th...i think!!! lol

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At the first ltr 450 test, they had some stock and modded R's and YFZ's to compare with. Stock vs stock, the Suzuki was WAY faster. Modded R and YFZ vs stock suzuki, the suzuki was still faster

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ya.. stock vs. stock maybe. I bet my piped, cammed, piston 450R will beat a stock LTR in a drag.and ACDC what happened to the 51hp stock claim... When i talked to doug gust at waterman he said it only has 42hp stock and the yfz and 450r were 39hp on that dyno. He said his race LTR will be around 55hp

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Check out glamisdunes.com. They have a stock LTR smokin HRC kitted R's and YFZ's by 3-4 lengths. I'm not bragging or dogging your R. I'm just stating what they " claim "!!!!!!

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stock yfz 2006 = 33 hp
stock 2006 trx450r= 36
stock ltr450= 42 hp + 8 hp is u get the yoshi stuff (pipe, air box stuff)
so yes the ltr450 stock can beat ur yfz modded !

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stock yfz 2006 = 33 hp
stock 2006 trx450r= 36
stock ltr450= 42 hp + 8 hp is u get the yoshi stuff (pipe, air box stuff)
so yes the ltr450 stock can beat ur yfz modded !
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those numbers seem a bit low, all except the ltr. where did u get the hp numbers?

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ya.. stock vs. stock maybe. I bet my piped, cammed, piston 450R will beat a stock LTR in a drag.and ACDC what happened to the 51hp stock claim... When i talked to doug gust at waterman he said it only has 42hp stock and the yfz and 450r were 39hp on that dyno. He said his race LTR will be around 55hp
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If you re-read his posts he says it's 50 tunable HP!

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i'm not 100% sure but dosent the ltr weigh a little less than a yfs or r

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post #10 of 36 (permalink) Old 02-02-2006, 12:04 PM
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The LTR is heavier than the YFZ. The yfz dry weight is 350lbs. while the ltr dry weight is 368 lbs.

The horsepower numbers above are irrelevant. Both the YFZ and TRX numbers are from the dirt wheels shoot out where they dynoed both bikes with the stock tires. To get a more accurate dyno number from the wheels they should have used TT tires.

In my opinion I do think the LTR will be a faster bike stock for stock. I used to own a Z400 and opted to get an 06 YFZ rather than the LTR, mainly because the LTR is very wide and setup for only MX, yes I know I could change everthing but that would be a waste of time and money. I do ride the track quite a bit but I also love competing in local poker runs an riding trails which require a bike that can fit through tight spaces.

I am not trying to be biased at all but just giving me opinion. I think it's great that all of these manufacturers are being very competitive to offer the best sport/race atv.

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The LTR is heavier than the YFZ.Wooter The yfz dry weight is 350lbs. while the ltr dry weight is 368 lbs.Wooter
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That's Yami's claimed dry weight. Dirt Wheels weighed it and it was much more than that!
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Dirt Wheels weighed its wet weight (full tank of gas, oil, coolant) and it was 370 lbs. to be exact. I have the article right here.

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I think there was a comparison in the latest dirt wheels, although not that comprehensive and I think Gust was riding the LTR

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Originally posted by FHKRacingZ@Feb 2 2006, 09:32 AM
ya.. stock vs. stock maybe. I bet my piped, cammed, piston 450R will beat a stock LTR in a drag.and ACDC what happened to the 51hp stock claim... When i talked to doug gust at waterman he said it only has 42hp stock and the yfz and 450r were 39hp on that dyno. He said his race LTR will be around 55hp
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#1, I just wished you would not reply to my post. From your past history, we know that you are a punk kid with a chip on your shoulder and nothing you say can be believed! Last week JJ said the 450 had 51 crank hp, I think that is what I have said before. I guess since you talked to Doug ONE time, now you are the expert Just go away or I will call you out on every site with all your BS!

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ACDC, I dont know why you wast your time dealing with him and all the bs he said. Half the chit he says is usless. And until he gets he azz handed to him by an LTR all he is going to do is talk trash. Belive me my bro who reads over at ORG says his posts are nothing short of usless.
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