drze

ltz400dave · 02-03-2012, 05:09 PM

ok i got my kit in and i notice it came with a paper gasket for the jub is this ok? a mtel one came off. is it strong enough and it came with purple paint on the springs. is there a way to put these springs back in? (paint up or down)

Hughesc99 · 02-03-2012, 06:22 PM

The paint on the springs doesnt matter. As far as the gasket...it should be metal. Not sure why you have a paper one. You are talking about the base gasket correct?

bobmilspaw · 02-03-2012, 06:29 PM

whoa! i got a paper base gasket as well. i just assumed this was the single layer base gasket, as advertised????

sd1 · 02-03-2012, 06:41 PM

i just wound up using a top end kit for a drze400 ..both base and head were metal..ive used the paper before but dont care for it...just make sure you put some gasket spray on it first before installing it

kfxguy · 02-03-2012, 07:31 PM

I have some spare metal ones. Or take your stock base gasket, drill the rivits and use a black layer with gasket sealant. That's all the drz gasket is.

ltz400dave · 02-03-2012, 07:58 PM

some get metal some get paper? that dont sound right if you guys think i should use the metal one ill go ahead and drill out the rivets and use one of the layers

jasmf24 · 02-03-2012, 08:02 PM

I ordered my stock base DRZe gasket from the dealer and it was metal.

sd1 · 02-03-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jasmf24

I ordered my stock base DRZe gasket from the dealer and it was metal.

oem base gasket = metal

aftermarket = some metal and some paper

Tmeder511 · 02-03-2012, 11:19 PM

Im using the paper one with no problems at all. Its what came in the DRZe kit i ordered from Advantage.

Gremlin · 02-04-2012, 05:50 AM

Same here... Green one. Got the build completed... Completed 10 painfully hours of break in and now my baby smokes...

biggiej42 · 02-04-2012, 09:06 AM

I had the paper one on for a while, until I needed to take the jug off. Worked just fine.

ltz400dave · 02-05-2012, 12:08 AM

ok i got my chit in and put every thing in the head, lapped the valves, springs, shimmed the intake to 0.18 and exhaust 0.28 is that ok? now i have one small problem i seem to have lost 2 washers that go to the head bolts. have no clue where they went. there not in the motor because i took the head bolts out and put them in a safe spot, then took the head off. as i took the head off i think the 2 washers were still in the head so i tossed about the head flipping it upside down and all inspecting it and they couldve fallen out some place. question can i use any old washer that are the same size exact to the ones i have still? another thing is should i lube the cylinder with anything, right now the piston is at the bottom and i have to put it top dead center. i have new rings and i honed the cylinder my self with scotch bright since the hone marks were semi there. i dont want to score the cylinder by putting it at top dead center with out some kind of lube?

atv4life95 · 02-05-2012, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltz400dave

ok i got my chit in and put every thing in the head, lapped the valves, springs, shimmed the intake to 0.18 and exhaust 0.28 is that ok? now i have one small problem i seem to have lost 2 washers that go to the head bolts. have no clue where they went. there not in the motor because i took the head bolts out and put them in a safe spot, then took the head off. as i took the head off i think the 2 washers were still in the head so i tossed about the head flipping it upside down and all inspecting it and they couldve fallen out some place. question can i use any old washer that are the same size exact to the ones i have still? another thing is should i lube the cylinder with anything, right now the piston is at the bottom and i have to put it top dead center. i have new rings and i honed the cylinder my self with scotch bright since the hone marks were semi there. i dont want to score the cylinder by putting it at top dead center with out some kind of lube?

I'm not too familiar with the washers on the cylinder head for the Z, but are they copper washers? I know on all the 2 stroke bikes i've taken apart they always had copper washers for the head. Not sure if it's the same with 4T engines as well. As for lubing the cylinder, it would be best to lube up the cylinder walls with oil. I would personally use a little 2 stroke oil since all that stuffs probably going to burn anyway once you fire it up, and 2T oil is meant to burn.

wheatez · 02-05-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltz400dave

it came with purple paint on the springs. is there a way to put these springs back in? (paint up or down)

I dont have drz springs in front of me but most springs one end has tighter wound coils which that end goes towards the bottom of the head.

ltz400dave · 02-05-2012, 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=wheatez;791923]I dont have drz springs in front of me but most springs one end has tighter wound coils which that end goes towards the bottom of the head./[QUOTE]

i put the paint marks up since they didnt come with any kind of instructions. they look the same up or down, so i just put the paint up.

[QUOTE=atv4life95;791923]I'm not too familiar with the washers on the cylinder head for the Z, but are they copper washers? I know on all the 2 stroke bikes i've taken apart they always had copper washers for the head. Not sure if it's the same with 4T engines as well. As for lubing the cylinder, it would be best to lube up the cylinder walls with oil. I would personally use a little 2 stroke oil since all that stuffs probably going to burn anyway once you fire it up, and 2T oil is meant to burn./[QUOTE]

people say not to lube the cylinder cus it will glaze the wall on fire up thats why i ask, i dont know what to do because its a toss up. to do it or not.

02-03-2012, 05:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
ltz400dave :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fuquay NC Posts: 1,188	drze ok i got my kit in and i notice it came with a paper gasket for the jub is this ok? a mtel one came off. is it strong enough and it came with purple paint on the springs. is there a way to put these springs back in? (paint up or down) __________________ ltz400 DRZE kit, pro taper bars, Nerf bars, Holeshot tires, hollowed out stock can with a straw for a header, ripped up seat, slightly over sized battery, stock jetting with removed snorkel, bent up skid plates, but its MINE Up graded from a mickey mouse electric to a TAO 110cc (my sons) he is 3 1999 red Mitsu Eclipse RS (Hers) NEW ADDITION: 97 F150 King cab Triton 4.6 v8 and a Suzuki jr80 dirt bike. DON'T JUDGE ME, it could be bad for your health

02-03-2012, 06:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hughesc99 :::Post Whore::: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 2,092	The paint on the springs doesnt matter. As far as the gasket...it should be metal. Not sure why you have a paper one. You are talking about the base gasket correct? __________________ 2006 Lt-Z434 Trinity IV Full Exhaust/OSHC/FCR39 w/AP Safety Wired/ Velocity Intake/Odi Rogue Grips/AC Nerfs Factory Suzuki Heel Guards/Durablue Rear Linkage +2+1 A-Arms

02-03-2012, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
bobmilspaw :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: May 2007 Location: georgia Posts: 174	whoa! i got a paper base gasket as well. i just assumed this was the single layer base gasket, as advertised???? __________________ 2009 Triumph Street Triple R 2006 LTZ 400 1985 Honda 250r ATC 1985 Tecate 3 1984 Honda 200x ATC 1972 Honda ATC 90 1968 Camaro

02-03-2012, 07:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
kfxguy :::Get a life! You're over 5000 posts::: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Louisiana baton rouge Posts: 5,896	I have some spare metal ones. Or take your stock base gasket, drill the rivits and use a black layer with gasket sealant. That's all the drz gasket is. __________________ OCTOBER 2009 QOTM KFX470 (The Black beast) -web cams custom grinds, titanium valves,cv4 springs -dyna programmable -4" extended swinger, rad aluminum axle -ported head (by me)(please do not pm me about head porting. Thx) -cp 94mm stroker piston, hot rods +5mm stroker -44mm straight bored fcr carb, Fci intake -powder coated everything

02-03-2012, 07:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
ltz400dave :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fuquay NC Posts: 1,188	some get metal some get paper? that dont sound right if you guys think i should use the metal one ill go ahead and drill out the rivets and use one of the layers __________________ ltz400 DRZE kit, pro taper bars, Nerf bars, Holeshot tires, hollowed out stock can with a straw for a header, ripped up seat, slightly over sized battery, stock jetting with removed snorkel, bent up skid plates, but its MINE Up graded from a mickey mouse electric to a TAO 110cc (my sons) he is 3 1999 red Mitsu Eclipse RS (Hers) NEW ADDITION: 97 F150 King cab Triton 4.6 v8 and a Suzuki jr80 dirt bike. DON'T JUDGE ME, it could be bad for your health

02-03-2012, 06:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
sd1 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 799	i just wound up using a top end kit for a drze400 ..both base and head were metal..ive used the paper before but dont care for it...just make sure you put some gasket spray on it first before installing it

02-03-2012, 08:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
jasmf24 :::KFX 400 Rider::: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 910	I ordered my stock base DRZe gasket from the dealer and it was metal. __________________ 2004 KFX400, 12.2:1 Wiseco, HMF full exhaust, FCR-39 (170 M/ 42P/ 40L/ NCVQ, DRZ-E boot w/ compact head-stay), OSHC's, K-W valves w/ drz springs, Dyna Fs NP, Raptor Petcock, Wiseco cam chain, 400ex boot, Oversized clamp on UNI/K&N no lid, DRZ-E Base, DRZ Flywheel, LTR450 Front Shocks, blob-less ProTaper Contour bars (ATV High) w/ hot-start reverse, odi grips, Tusk nerfs, Full skids, 14/40, (R) Holeshot ITP HD (F) Rzr2, Port-N-Polish by me.

02-03-2012, 11:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tmeder511 :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 263	Im using the paper one with no problems at all. Its what came in the DRZe kit i ordered from Advantage. __________________ QUAD HUB

02-04-2012, 05:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
Gremlin :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 608	Same here... Green one. Got the build completed... Completed 10 painfully hours of break in and now my baby smokes... __________________ '03 Z400 -13t Front Sprocket -Uni Air Filter -'06 Z400 Stock Ressie Shocks -All Balls Rear Bearing Kit -Cylinderworks Big Bore -Port/Polish (Advantage Cycle) -Pro Circuit T4 Full Exhaust -Ferrea Stainless Valves -Dyna Chip Non-Programmable -DRZe Kit -Big Bear Clutch Kit -Edelbrock Carb -Stage 1 Hotcams -Maxxis Razr 2's Full Set -Tusk Slotted Rear Rotor '01 GSX-R 750 -Under tail -Fender Eliminator -Flush mount front flashers

02-04-2012, 09:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
biggiej42 :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,356	I had the paper one on for a while, until I needed to take the jug off. Worked just fine. __________________ 05' Z434 12.5:1CP,Full Yosh TRC,FCR40,175/45,Rat Stack,Dyna Programmable,AMR Coil,KW Valvetrain,536/540 Web's,DID Tchain,PWR Radiator,Raptor petcock,Gunnar Kill,Elka S3 Front+Rear w/link,Roll+1 Stem,GPR Stabilizer,SL Hyd.Clutch,Tag T2,LSR+3 Arms,Burgard+1 Swinger,Quadtech Rad Shrouds,Supersprox 14/40t,UM Air Box,YFZ Calipers,SS Lines,PA Bumper,Asv's,Roll Nerfs/Heels/Pegs,LSR Axcalibar,Douglas G2 Beadlocks/Razr's,Hid,YFZTail,Pwrmadd's,TT Vapor+Dash,CV4's,RickyStator. July 2011 QOTM

02-05-2012, 12:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
ltz400dave :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fuquay NC Posts: 1,188	ok i got my chit in and put every thing in the head, lapped the valves, springs, shimmed the intake to 0.18 and exhaust 0.28 is that ok? now i have one small problem i seem to have lost 2 washers that go to the head bolts. have no clue where they went. there not in the motor because i took the head bolts out and put them in a safe spot, then took the head off. as i took the head off i think the 2 washers were still in the head so i tossed about the head flipping it upside down and all inspecting it and they couldve fallen out some place. question can i use any old washer that are the same size exact to the ones i have still? another thing is should i lube the cylinder with anything, right now the piston is at the bottom and i have to put it top dead center. i have new rings and i honed the cylinder my self with scotch bright since the hone marks were semi there. i dont want to score the cylinder by putting it at top dead center with out some kind of lube? __________________ ltz400 DRZE kit, pro taper bars, Nerf bars, Holeshot tires, hollowed out stock can with a straw for a header, ripped up seat, slightly over sized battery, stock jetting with removed snorkel, bent up skid plates, but its MINE Up graded from a mickey mouse electric to a TAO 110cc (my sons) he is 3 1999 red Mitsu Eclipse RS (Hers) NEW ADDITION: 97 F150 King cab Triton 4.6 v8 and a Suzuki jr80 dirt bike. DON'T JUDGE ME, it could be bad for your health Last edited by ltz400dave; 02-05-2012 at 12:26 AM.

02-05-2012, 10:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
ltz400dave :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fuquay NC Posts: 1,188	[QUOTE=wheatez;791923]I dont have drz springs in front of me but most springs one end has tighter wound coils which that end goes towards the bottom of the head./[QUOTE] i put the paint marks up since they didnt come with any kind of instructions. they look the same up or down, so i just put the paint up. [QUOTE=atv4life95;791923]I'm not too familiar with the washers on the cylinder head for the Z, but are they copper washers? I know on all the 2 stroke bikes i've taken apart they always had copper washers for the head. Not sure if it's the same with 4T engines as well. As for lubing the cylinder, it would be best to lube up the cylinder walls with oil. I would personally use a little 2 stroke oil since all that stuffs probably going to burn anyway once you fire it up, and 2T oil is meant to burn./[QUOTE] people say not to lube the cylinder cus it will glaze the wall on fire up thats why i ask, i dont know what to do because its a toss up. to do it or not. __________________ ltz400 DRZE kit, pro taper bars, Nerf bars, Holeshot tires, hollowed out stock can with a straw for a header, ripped up seat, slightly over sized battery, stock jetting with removed snorkel, bent up skid plates, but its MINE Up graded from a mickey mouse electric to a TAO 110cc (my sons) he is 3 1999 red Mitsu Eclipse RS (Hers) NEW ADDITION: 97 F150 King cab Triton 4.6 v8 and a Suzuki jr80 dirt bike. DON'T JUDGE ME, it could be bad for your health

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