Wheel Verification

cr125honda · 01-28-2012, 05:52 PM

I've got a mixed set of front wheels on a Z400 (came that way). Need to correct this..

Would like to have someone verify that the OEM wheel is in fact a stock Suzuki (not Honda, etc.) wheel.

Would also like the some verification on the ITP wheel. Pretty sure it's a 3/2 offset. I think I'd like to get another one like it as it gives the front end a little wider stance.

Are there any negatives adding these to a stock front end (stock arms & shocks)?

I'm guessing it may take a little more force to steer..

Top view of the offset difference below. Look at the distance from the tire to the ball joint to see the differences.

Thanks, Ken

BTW- If you have an extra of either of these wheels, shoot me a PM.

ITP Wheel

ITP Wheel

OEM Wheel

ITP Wheel

cataway · 01-28-2012, 06:23 PM

Suzuki and Honda do not make the wheels. as for the off set I'd like to steer you away from it

cr125honda · 01-28-2012, 06:50 PM

Regarding the Suzuki and Honda wheels, thats kind of what I'm trying to figure out. I know they both have the same size lug pattern (4/144), but don't know if they're offset's are the same.

If I'm going to steer away from finding another matching ITP wheel (as you suggested), I need to know if the stock wheel I have is Suzuki or Honda or?

I.E., I need to look for another stock wheel with matching offset.

Regarding offset (finding a matching ITP wheel).. This is only a trail riding quad. No intentions of buying aftermarket arms & shocks to make a race ready, better trail rider,etc.
I've read threads on here (and other sites) about wheel offset in the past, and to be honest, I don't remember what the majority thought about it.
Just trying to get others quick opinion and save a little time by not searching through them all again.

Regards, Ken

cr125honda · 01-30-2012, 08:25 PM

Based on the shape of the inner hole cutout on the OEM wheel, I've figured out it is a stock Suzuki wheel.

The shape of the hole cutout on the the Honda wheel looks a bit more rounded.

Anyone have either a stock Suzuki wheel or an ITP like the one above they would like to sell?

Would also swap one of these with someone to make a matching set..

Ken

TRMN8TR · 01-30-2012, 08:50 PM

Lemme check...I have my stock front wheels Im not using. One of them has a bad dent so selling just one isn't a problem. Its not perfect but it does the trick.

sandman74 · 01-31-2012, 12:06 AM

I think DID made most of the Honda & Suzuki wheels, most all the fronts are 4/1.5 (5.5 x10 wheel).

turner1517 · 02-15-2012, 10:40 AM

i have a question on my z400 the guy befor me used the wrong lug nuts sot i have 3 wheel studs on the back 2 hubs that r no goo i replaced them with bolts but i still have a wicked innside to outside wobble kinda looks like its gonna fall off what could cause this?

turner1517 · 02-15-2012, 10:42 AM

and if i ran 10 inch rear rims on my z400 would it burn the clutch out of it or somthin along them lines? just curious would like to know befor i ruin my machione just wingin it lol

tkohlleppel · 02-15-2012, 12:11 PM

10" rims won't hurt a thing. Its how big of a tire that is mounted on them they may cause you a little trouble..Bigger tire means higher geared, which may cause you to have to slip the clutch a little more in sticky situations. Stock rear tire 20x11x9, I run 20x11x10 the last # being rim size... Thus, I havent changed my tire size or gearing at all from factory specs..
Hope this helps

turner1517 · 02-17-2012, 08:10 AM

thank u now if i havwe rim wobble like inside to outside could it b that i dont have tapered lugnuts?

tkohlleppel · 02-17-2012, 03:02 PM

unlikely, i'd say u have a bent wheel.. Wheels r usually the first thing to bend then spindal, knuckle and so forth.. if tight your wheel should mount tight on your which should hold it square.. Swap your wheels around and see if the wobble stays with the same wheel..

arrowblazer71 · 02-17-2012, 03:40 PM

you could also try to snug the hub bolt, may be a little loose

WillyG · 02-17-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowblazer71

you could also try to snug the hub bolt, may be a little loose

I had to snug up my hub bolt the other day cause I noticed alittle wobble, it fixed the problem.

01-28-2012, 05:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
cr125honda :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Taylor Mill, KY (near Cincinnati) Posts: 175	Wheel Verification I've got a mixed set of front wheels on a Z400 (came that way). Need to correct this.. Would like to have someone verify that the OEM wheel is in fact a stock Suzuki (not Honda, etc.) wheel. Would also like the some verification on the ITP wheel. Pretty sure it's a 3/2 offset. I think I'd like to get another one like it as it gives the front end a little wider stance. Are there any negatives adding these to a stock front end (stock arms & shocks)? I'm guessing it may take a little more force to steer.. Top view of the offset difference below. Look at the distance from the tire to the ball joint to see the differences. Thanks, Ken BTW- If you have an extra of either of these wheels, shoot me a PM. ITP Wheel ITP Wheel ITP Wheel ITP Wheel OEM Wheel OEM Wheel OEM Wheel OEM Wheel OEM Wheel ITP Wheel __________________ *Do it once, do it right!!* Z400 Torque Specs Swingarm Grease fitting Mod KC's Keyswitch Relocation Mod 03 Z400 - DJ kit, Pro Circuit T4 full pipe, Airbox mod/UNI filter, DrD reverse, Nerfs & skids, 13t sprocket, 05 shocks 05 Z400 - DJ kit, Carbon Fiber Yoshi half pipe, Airbox mod/UNI filter, KFX450 reverse mod, Nerfs & skids skids, 13t sprocket 05 Z250 - Stock, for family and friends

01-28-2012, 06:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
cataway :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,053	Suzuki and Honda do not make the wheels. as for the off set I'd like to steer you away from it __________________ 03 ltz400,95.5bore,+5crank,P&P,13.7:1,JE piston,spacer plate,RHC +1 intakes valves,RHC #208in&187ex cams,DRZ manual decomp,DID cam chain,no air box,Sredrum TB 42mm FCR,RAT stack,WB fuel screw,EMN needle,quick shot,06 clutch 450r drive plates w/trx400 ex springs,C2HB,ex thumber,trx450r air boot, Barker Performance pipe, trailteck flywheel,dynatek,nerf bars,450r shocks, nerf bars,+4 swinger,lowered front & rear

01-28-2012, 06:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
cr125honda :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Taylor Mill, KY (near Cincinnati) Posts: 175	Regarding the Suzuki and Honda wheels, thats kind of what I'm trying to figure out. I know they both have the same size lug pattern (4/144), but don't know if they're offset's are the same. If I'm going to steer away from finding another matching ITP wheel (as you suggested), I need to know if the stock wheel I have is Suzuki or Honda or? I.E., I need to look for another stock wheel with matching offset. Regarding offset (finding a matching ITP wheel).. This is only a trail riding quad. No intentions of buying aftermarket arms & shocks to make a race ready, better trail rider,etc. I've read threads on here (and other sites) about wheel offset in the past, and to be honest, I don't remember what the majority thought about it. Just trying to get others quick opinion and save a little time by not searching through them all again. Regards, Ken __________________ *Do it once, do it right!!* Z400 Torque Specs Swingarm Grease fitting Mod KC's Keyswitch Relocation Mod 03 Z400 - DJ kit, Pro Circuit T4 full pipe, Airbox mod/UNI filter, DrD reverse, Nerfs & skids, 13t sprocket, 05 shocks 05 Z400 - DJ kit, Carbon Fiber Yoshi half pipe, Airbox mod/UNI filter, KFX450 reverse mod, Nerfs & skids skids, 13t sprocket 05 Z250 - Stock, for family and friends

01-30-2012, 08:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
cr125honda :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Taylor Mill, KY (near Cincinnati) Posts: 175	Based on the shape of the inner hole cutout on the OEM wheel, I've figured out it is a stock Suzuki wheel. The shape of the hole cutout on the the Honda wheel looks a bit more rounded. Anyone have either a stock Suzuki wheel or an ITP like the one above they would like to sell? Would also swap one of these with someone to make a matching set.. Ken __________________ *Do it once, do it right!!* Z400 Torque Specs Swingarm Grease fitting Mod KC's Keyswitch Relocation Mod 03 Z400 - DJ kit, Pro Circuit T4 full pipe, Airbox mod/UNI filter, DrD reverse, Nerfs & skids, 13t sprocket, 05 shocks 05 Z400 - DJ kit, Carbon Fiber Yoshi half pipe, Airbox mod/UNI filter, KFX450 reverse mod, Nerfs & skids skids, 13t sprocket 05 Z250 - Stock, for family and friends

01-30-2012, 08:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
TRMN8TR :::Z-250 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 402	Lemme check...I have my stock front wheels Im not using. One of them has a bad dent so selling just one isn't a problem. Its not perfect but it does the trick. __________________ 2006 z400. It has things and stuff.

01-31-2012, 12:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
sandman74 :::Vinson Rider...wtf?::: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 705	I think DID made most of the Honda & Suzuki wheels, most all the fronts are 4/1.5 (5.5 x10 wheel). __________________ Trinity Stage 4 full exhaust, UNI filter w/ DIY powerlid, 400EX airboot, FCR39, R&D fuel screw, DRZe kit, Yoshimura Cams, Motion Pro Twist throttle, Pro Taper bars, YFZ calipers, TRX master cylinder, KX clutch perch, KTM lines, Acerbis hand guards, TrailTech Vapor, aluminum radiator shrouds, aluminum heal guards, bossbearing DLR conversion, ZX6 LED tail-light, full PRM skids and bumper, ITP's w/GNCC's, Laegers +2, Houser +1.25

02-15-2012, 10:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
turner1517 :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: milton vermont Posts: 4	i have a question on my z400 the guy befor me used the wrong lug nuts sot i have 3 wheel studs on the back 2 hubs that r no goo i replaced them with bolts but i still have a wicked innside to outside wobble kinda looks like its gonna fall off what could cause this?

02-15-2012, 10:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
turner1517 :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: milton vermont Posts: 4	and if i ran 10 inch rear rims on my z400 would it burn the clutch out of it or somthin along them lines? just curious would like to know befor i ruin my machione just wingin it lol

02-15-2012, 12:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
tkohlleppel :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ravenwood, MO Posts: 237	10" rims won't hurt a thing. Its how big of a tire that is mounted on them they may cause you a little trouble..Bigger tire means higher geared, which may cause you to have to slip the clutch a little more in sticky situations. Stock rear tire 20x11x9, I run 20x11x10 the last # being rim size... Thus, I havent changed my tire size or gearing at all from factory specs.. Hope this helps

02-17-2012, 08:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
turner1517 :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: milton vermont Posts: 4	thank u now if i havwe rim wobble like inside to outside could it b that i dont have tapered lugnuts?

02-17-2012, 03:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
tkohlleppel :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ravenwood, MO Posts: 237	unlikely, i'd say u have a bent wheel.. Wheels r usually the first thing to bend then spindal, knuckle and so forth.. if tight your wheel should mount tight on your which should hold it square.. Swap your wheels around and see if the wobble stays with the same wheel..

02-17-2012, 03:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
arrowblazer71 :::Ozark 250 rider::: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Tarkio, MO Posts: 295	you could also try to snug the hub bolt, may be a little loose __________________ 2004 Z400 white bros ehxaust, 92mm stroker kit. some other stuff. 2003 Z400 DMC Alien exhaust 2003 Z400 White bros exhaust Sponsors: GoPro, EVS, slick offroad wash, Eken, Livewire energy,

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