Z400 suspension mods

trail/trackz400 · 02-01-2012, 11:23 AM

I have an 04z and all i did was put a big bore kit on it. I hate how high it sits and i want to widen and lower it but i dont know where to start. Ive been searching for the longest time on here and i just cant get enough clarification. I have somewhat of an idea on what i need but i know im missing a few things. What would yall recomend for track use but still have enough ground clearence for trails?

biggiej42 · 02-01-2012, 11:25 AM

+2 arms, 4:1 front wheels, and a nice set of gt thunder/elka/ishock's.

decentZ89 · 02-01-2012, 11:27 AM

Aka spending an arm and a leg lol

TuckerHardRide · 02-01-2012, 11:27 AM

How much money do you have to spend and how much do you weigh?

bimmerdog · 02-01-2012, 11:39 AM

as far as shocks you will get a ton of different responses. I went with a +3 long travel front end and a +2 rear axle. The ride was amazing and handling was greatly improved.

trail/trackz400 · 02-01-2012, 12:07 PM

Im gonna check the bank acount during my lunch break so idk about budget yet. But I weigh 150. I have a feeling that installing a wider rear end is gonna be dificult. But honestly im alredy in the hole a good $2k plus the price of buying it so price doesnt scare me anymore.

trail/trackz400 · 02-01-2012, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bimmerdog

as far as shocks you will get a ton of different responses. I went with a +3 long travel front end and a +2 rear axle. The ride was amazing and handling was greatly improved.

I think ill go with +2 all the way around.

trail/trackz400 · 02-01-2012, 12:11 PM

Oops quoted twice

dtfm33 · 02-01-2012, 12:18 PM

Moved to proper section

trail/trackz400 · 02-02-2012, 01:06 PM

bump

woodsrider129 · 02-02-2012, 01:12 PM

You say you ride both track and trail. Which do you ride more and how tight are the trails that you ride?

trail/trackz400 · 02-02-2012, 01:14 PM

Well last summer i rode mostly trails that are about 4 foot wide at the skinniest points, however i think this summer i am going to go to that track in Henderson so i would say that im going to ride track more.

woodsrider129 · 02-02-2012, 01:30 PM

I'd go the route Biggie suggested then. You can buy some 05-08 front shocks instead of the nicer, aftermarket ones to save you a little cash.
Biggie had also suggested 4+1 offset wheels. You could run the factory 3+2 offset wheels with the +2 a-arms and that will set you at 50" in the front, which is the MX standard. Then if you feel your too tight for the trails you ride you could always buy a pair of 4+1 fronts.

trail/trackz400 · 02-02-2012, 01:34 PM

...ok prepare yourself for a stupid question. i get the +1 but what is the 4 in the 4+1?

woodsrider129 · 02-02-2012, 01:40 PM

Offset measurement of your wheels. Your front wheels are 5" wide. The stock offset is 3+2, which means 3" of offset on the inside and 2" on the outside. A 4+1 wheel has 4" of offset on the inside of the wheel and 1" on the outside. So if you were to remove your stock 3+2 rims and put on a pair of 4+1's, then you just narrowed your front end by 2" total.

02-01-2012, 11:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
trail/trackz400 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: roxboro, north carolina however i live on SuzCen Posts: 805	Z400 suspension mods I have an 04z and all i did was put a big bore kit on it. I hate how high it sits and i want to widen and lower it but i dont know where to start. Ive been searching for the longest time on here and i just cant get enough clarification. I have somewhat of an idea on what i need but i know im missing a few things. What would yall recomend for track use but still have enough ground clearence for trails? __________________ 04 z400, fmf powerbomb header, asv unbreakable clutch lever with hot start, lrd 4 series slip on, ITP holeshots, jetted with high rev. limiter computer, pro armor engine skid, 06 shocks, random front bumper, random nerfs, 06 rear shock, SPIZE DASH! Its actualy a 440 but sshhh its a sleeper. WTB: fcr 39,twist throttle, +2 a arms, +1 rear swinger, +1 rear axle, 4:1 front rims with matching style rear rims. I LIVE ON SUZUKICENTRAL!!

02-01-2012, 11:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
biggiej42 :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,390	+2 arms, 4:1 front wheels, and a nice set of gt thunder/elka/ishock's. __________________ 05' Z434 12.5:1CP,Full Yosh TRC,FCR40,175/45,Rat Stack,Dyna Programmable,AMR Coil,KW Valvetrain,536/540 Web's,DID Tchain,PWR Radiator,Raptor petcock,Gunnar Kill,Elka S3 Front+Rear w/link,Roll+1 Stem,GPR Stabilizer,SL Hyd.Clutch,Tag T2,LSR+3 Arms,Burgard+1 Swinger,Quadtech Rad Shrouds,Supersprox 14/40t,UM Air Box,YFZ Calipers,SS Lines,PA Bumper,Asv's,Roll Nerfs/Heels/Pegs,LSR Axcalibar,Douglas G2 Beadlocks/Razr's,Hid,YFZTail,Pwrmadd's,TT Vapor+Dash,CV4's,RickyStator. July 2011 QOTM

02-01-2012, 11:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
decentZ89 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York Posts: 809	Aka spending an arm and a leg lol __________________ 2003 Suzuki Ltz 400 -got some stuff 2000 Honda XR50 - pitbike 2006 Nissan SE-R Spec-v - daily driver 1993 Jeep Wrangler - built and swapped

02-01-2012, 11:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
TuckerHardRide :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: PA Posts: 3,247	How much money do you have to spend and how much do you weigh? __________________ 2006 LTR450 Engine Mods: Yoshimira Cherry Bomb - RS-5 Full Exhaust - Inspection Plug Choke B/O Nut - Start Button JE Piston Suspension, Steering & Chassis: Flexx Bars w Turner Clamps - Precision Damper - Tag Skid Plate Powermadds - LT Fox Evol w FuelATV A-Arms - Fox Podium Rear Pro Armor Grab Bar - IMS Roll Nerf + Heel + Bumper Misc: DID X-Ring Chain - Sprocket Guard - Frame Guards - ProDesign K/S Hiper Tec 3 - ITP Beadlock Rear Rims Parted Out: 2004 LTZ400 - September 2011 QOTM

02-01-2012, 11:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
bimmerdog :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Taylorsville Utah Posts: 578	as far as shocks you will get a ton of different responses. I went with a +3 long travel front end and a +2 rear axle. The ride was amazing and handling was greatly improved. __________________ retire early, it's fun Ping Golf Demo Tech ride.... "08" LTZ 400 PEP Race front shocks PEP re valved rear shock + Pep linkage Lone Star +3 long travel A-arms Tusk +2 rear axle drive... "09" F150 Lariat dog..... "07" Yellow Lab cat..... "99" Britishblue wife.... "02" Lawyer

02-01-2012, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
trail/trackz400 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: roxboro, north carolina however i live on SuzCen Posts: 805	Im gonna check the bank acount during my lunch break so idk about budget yet. But I weigh 150. I have a feeling that installing a wider rear end is gonna be dificult. But honestly im alredy in the hole a good $2k plus the price of buying it so price doesnt scare me anymore. __________________ 04 z400, fmf powerbomb header, asv unbreakable clutch lever with hot start, lrd 4 series slip on, ITP holeshots, jetted with high rev. limiter computer, pro armor engine skid, 06 shocks, random front bumper, random nerfs, 06 rear shock, SPIZE DASH! Its actualy a 440 but sshhh its a sleeper. WTB: fcr 39,twist throttle, +2 a arms, +1 rear swinger, +1 rear axle, 4:1 front rims with matching style rear rims. I LIVE ON SUZUKICENTRAL!!

02-01-2012, 12:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
trail/trackz400 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: roxboro, north carolina however i live on SuzCen Posts: 805	Oops quoted twice __________________ 04 z400, fmf powerbomb header, asv unbreakable clutch lever with hot start, lrd 4 series slip on, ITP holeshots, jetted with high rev. limiter computer, pro armor engine skid, 06 shocks, random front bumper, random nerfs, 06 rear shock, SPIZE DASH! Its actualy a 440 but sshhh its a sleeper. WTB: fcr 39,twist throttle, +2 a arms, +1 rear swinger, +1 rear axle, 4:1 front rims with matching style rear rims. I LIVE ON SUZUKICENTRAL!!

02-01-2012, 12:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
dtfm33 Administrator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,654	Moved to proper section __________________ A few extras!

02-02-2012, 01:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
trail/trackz400 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: roxboro, north carolina however i live on SuzCen Posts: 805	bump __________________ 04 z400, fmf powerbomb header, asv unbreakable clutch lever with hot start, lrd 4 series slip on, ITP holeshots, jetted with high rev. limiter computer, pro armor engine skid, 06 shocks, random front bumper, random nerfs, 06 rear shock, SPIZE DASH! Its actualy a 440 but sshhh its a sleeper. WTB: fcr 39,twist throttle, +2 a arms, +1 rear swinger, +1 rear axle, 4:1 front rims with matching style rear rims. I LIVE ON SUZUKICENTRAL!!

02-02-2012, 01:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
woodsrider129 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Owensboro, KY Posts: 1,205	You say you ride both track and trail. Which do you ride more and how tight are the trails that you ride?

02-02-2012, 01:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
trail/trackz400 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: roxboro, north carolina however i live on SuzCen Posts: 805	Well last summer i rode mostly trails that are about 4 foot wide at the skinniest points, however i think this summer i am going to go to that track in Henderson so i would say that im going to ride track more. __________________ 04 z400, fmf powerbomb header, asv unbreakable clutch lever with hot start, lrd 4 series slip on, ITP holeshots, jetted with high rev. limiter computer, pro armor engine skid, 06 shocks, random front bumper, random nerfs, 06 rear shock, SPIZE DASH! Its actualy a 440 but sshhh its a sleeper. WTB: fcr 39,twist throttle, +2 a arms, +1 rear swinger, +1 rear axle, 4:1 front rims with matching style rear rims. I LIVE ON SUZUKICENTRAL!!

02-02-2012, 01:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
woodsrider129 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Owensboro, KY Posts: 1,205	I'd go the route Biggie suggested then. You can buy some 05-08 front shocks instead of the nicer, aftermarket ones to save you a little cash. Biggie had also suggested 4+1 offset wheels. You could run the factory 3+2 offset wheels with the +2 a-arms and that will set you at 50" in the front, which is the MX standard. Then if you feel your too tight for the trails you ride you could always buy a pair of 4+1 fronts.

02-02-2012, 01:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
trail/trackz400 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: roxboro, north carolina however i live on SuzCen Posts: 805	...ok prepare yourself for a stupid question. i get the +1 but what is the 4 in the 4+1? __________________ 04 z400, fmf powerbomb header, asv unbreakable clutch lever with hot start, lrd 4 series slip on, ITP holeshots, jetted with high rev. limiter computer, pro armor engine skid, 06 shocks, random front bumper, random nerfs, 06 rear shock, SPIZE DASH! Its actualy a 440 but sshhh its a sleeper. WTB: fcr 39,twist throttle, +2 a arms, +1 rear swinger, +1 rear axle, 4:1 front rims with matching style rear rims. I LIVE ON SUZUKICENTRAL!!

02-02-2012, 01:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
woodsrider129 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Owensboro, KY Posts: 1,205	Offset measurement of your wheels. Your front wheels are 5" wide. The stock offset is 3+2, which means 3" of offset on the inside and 2" on the outside. A 4+1 wheel has 4" of offset on the inside of the wheel and 1" on the outside. So if you were to remove your stock 3+2 rims and put on a pair of 4+1's, then you just narrowed your front end by 2" total.

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