Brake Pads

cataway · 11-27-2006, 10:39 PM

i want to replace my rear brake pads .i'm wondering if there is a best kind of pad to use.
should i get STANDARD BRAKE PADS. or should i get Semi-Metallic Brakes

advantagecycle · 11-27-2006, 10:51 PM

I stock and sell the SBS sintered pads, they are the only way to fly for ATV's. I just got them added to my website, take a look.

Paul

cataway · 11-27-2006, 11:21 PM

what is so special about SBS sintered pads?why are they better?

bolivia310 · 11-27-2006, 11:22 PM

QUOTE (advantagecycle @ Nov 27 2006, 07:51 PM)

Quote:

I stock and sell the SBS sintered pads, they are the only way to fly for ATV's. I just got them added to my website, take a look.

Paul[/b]

What do you think about Streamlines braking products?? I happen to be connected with them and I never knew it...

advantagecycle · 11-28-2006, 12:25 PM

Well, heres my take. Most major manufactures of brake pads have very similar products/prices when you stack apples to apples. I have always had consistant good luck with SBS on my own machines, and I install several sets a week on customer machines.

I guess if something works like it should, why switch around? Just beware of the cheapies, I've seen some of the generic brands smoke off in one ride.

Paul

PS, I have never heard of "streamline"

cataway · 11-28-2006, 07:06 PM

what is sintered ? non-sintered ?
i have a stock ltz what does it have on it ? are they sintered ?
what is going to work with what i have?

johnsoninc86 · 11-28-2006, 08:26 PM

i ride a ton of mud, wet trails, and harescrambles, and so far, i burnt through a set of ebc pads, the red ones, for "dry" conditions, in one ride. Then tried a set of ebc heavy duty's, they lasted for about a month, now im going back to stock to see how those hold up. When i bought the z used, it only had like 1/16 pad life left and it lasted for a month or two. So theres my reviews of pads...

bolivia310 · 11-29-2006, 01:26 AM

Heres the link to streamline brakes...check it out..they really have some nice stuff and seem quite popular

http://streamlinebrakes.com/

Quad82 · 11-29-2006, 10:35 PM

Spend the extra money for the sinterend pads (metal shavings imbedded in the asbetos material). The others are junk. I always figured people put them on for a selling cosmetic. Like brand new Cheap tires on a car. Very important, check your brake rotor. If you grind down the pads or run in mud, your rotor will gull. This will kill the life of your new pads in a hurry.

johnsoninc86 · 11-29-2006, 11:25 PM

what does gull mean? Should we be lookin into a new rotor if we have run the pads down to bare metal?

advantagecycle · 11-29-2006, 11:52 PM

QUOTE (cataway @ Nov 28 2006, 04:21 AM)

Quote:

what is so special about SBS sintered pads?why are they better?[/b]

I'm sorry, I read your post too fast. As someone has already mentioned, sintered pads have more metallic compound in them. Its alot better "bite" of a brake pad, and almost all of the rear pads I sell are sintered. You can get sintered for the front as well, even though alot of MFG's reccomend ceramic for a bit more heat tolerance, and less bite for better handling under braking.

Paul

PeeWee · 11-30-2006, 07:35 AM

This is a good thread....it's getting pinned!!!

On another note...how long would pads under normal riding conditions last? You all will think i'm crazy but my 03 KFX still has stock pads on it...front and rear....of course...for the most of it's life it only seen an mx track 2 times a week.

Quad82 · 11-30-2006, 01:01 PM

Gulling is the groves worn into the rotor from uneven surfaces on the brake pad or backing plate. Like if the pad is totaly gone the metal plate that the pads were glued on to rub the rotor. Take your finger and slide it across the rotor where the brake pad would make contact. It needs to be smooth. If it's gouged you should buy a new rotor to save wearing out new pads. On a car, you have the rotors turned to smooth them out. But on a quad or bike there isn't enough thickness to turn them. Replacement is the only option.

advantagecycle · 12-01-2006, 11:24 AM

Since brake maintance is being discussed, I want to point out another common problem that is often overlooked. The caliper "floats" on the main stay bolted to the carrier. These float pins need to be lubed every so often for the caliper to self center properly. I use spray grease, and just stick the little red straw under the edge of each boot when we do brake jobs. Work it a few times by hand to make sure its not binding.

Paul

Joshz400_03 · 12-01-2006, 11:08 PM

If your pads wear extreamly fast your rotor might be bent!!! happened to me

11-27-2006, 10:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
cataway :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,053	i want to replace my rear brake pads .i'm wondering if there is a best kind of pad to use. should i get STANDARD BRAKE PADS. or should i get Semi-Metallic Brakes __________________ 03 ltz400,95.5bore,+5crank,P&P,13.7:1,JE piston,spacer plate,RHC +1 intakes valves,RHC #208in&187ex cams,DRZ manual decomp,DID cam chain,no air box,Sredrum TB 42mm FCR,RAT stack,WB fuel screw,EMN needle,quick shot,06 clutch 450r drive plates w/trx400 ex springs,C2HB,ex thumber,trx450r air boot, Barker Performance pipe, trailteck flywheel,dynatek,nerf bars,450r shocks, nerf bars,+4 swinger,lowered front & rear

11-27-2006, 10:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
advantagecycle :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,287	I stock and sell the SBS sintered pads, they are the only way to fly for ATV's. I just got them added to my website, take a look. Paul __________________ Full Circle Parts/Service/Engine Building www.AdvantageCycleLC.com Email: AdvantageCycle@aol.com 515/961-5699 Please note: I don't check the site PM's, so please email me direct if you would like to send a message.

11-27-2006, 11:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
cataway :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,053	what is so special about SBS sintered pads?why are they better? __________________ 03 ltz400,95.5bore,+5crank,P&P,13.7:1,JE piston,spacer plate,RHC +1 intakes valves,RHC #208in&187ex cams,DRZ manual decomp,DID cam chain,no air box,Sredrum TB 42mm FCR,RAT stack,WB fuel screw,EMN needle,quick shot,06 clutch 450r drive plates w/trx400 ex springs,C2HB,ex thumber,trx450r air boot, Barker Performance pipe, trailteck flywheel,dynatek,nerf bars,450r shocks, nerf bars,+4 swinger,lowered front & rear

11-28-2006, 12:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
advantagecycle :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,287	Well, heres my take. Most major manufactures of brake pads have very similar products/prices when you stack apples to apples. I have always had consistant good luck with SBS on my own machines, and I install several sets a week on customer machines. I guess if something works like it should, why switch around? Just beware of the cheapies, I've seen some of the generic brands smoke off in one ride. Paul PS, I have never heard of "streamline" __________________ Full Circle Parts/Service/Engine Building www.AdvantageCycleLC.com Email: AdvantageCycle@aol.com 515/961-5699 Please note: I don't check the site PM's, so please email me direct if you would like to send a message.

11-28-2006, 07:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
cataway :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,053	what is sintered ? non-sintered ? i have a stock ltz what does it have on it ? are they sintered ? what is going to work with what i have? __________________ 03 ltz400,95.5bore,+5crank,P&P,13.7:1,JE piston,spacer plate,RHC +1 intakes valves,RHC #208in&187ex cams,DRZ manual decomp,DID cam chain,no air box,Sredrum TB 42mm FCR,RAT stack,WB fuel screw,EMN needle,quick shot,06 clutch 450r drive plates w/trx400 ex springs,C2HB,ex thumber,trx450r air boot, Barker Performance pipe, trailteck flywheel,dynatek,nerf bars,450r shocks, nerf bars,+4 swinger,lowered front & rear

11-28-2006, 08:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
johnsoninc86 :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 245	i ride a ton of mud, wet trails, and harescrambles, and so far, i burnt through a set of ebc pads, the red ones, for "dry" conditions, in one ride. Then tried a set of ebc heavy duty's, they lasted for about a month, now im going back to stock to see how those hold up. When i bought the z used, it only had like 1/16 pad life left and it lasted for a month or two. So theres my reviews of pads... __________________ 2003 White Z400-sold... Bill Ballance full system, DRZe kit, Kibblewhites, Wiseco piston, FLEXX bars, Hipers, Razr2/Razr combo, GTT 450r fronts/ rear rebuild, Clarke 4.0g tank, DID 3/4 cam chain, PEP stabilizer, Acerbis Rally II's, Maier vent hood, Oury grips, AC standard nerfs, armadillo swinger/chassis skid, tusk tether kill, 03 Sub modded for ProArmor Grab bar, PRM baja bumper, LSR PB block off, Moose perch, Barnett Dirt Digger clutch, RK Chains X-ring, 13t front sprocket, Factory Effex seat cover and graphics, more to come..... "I am being chased through the woods by a bunch of nutcases out to steal my $2 trophy that I paid $40+ to TRY to take home with me!" #151 IXCR B-Class Lincoln Trail Motosports A-Class Big thanks to my '08 sponsors- GT Thunder, Scott, Harley Davidson of Bloomington, Joe Stines, the parents and the girlfriend

11-29-2006, 01:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
bolivia310 :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: LOS ANGELES, CA Posts: 23	Heres the link to streamline brakes...check it out..they really have some nice stuff and seem quite popular http://streamlinebrakes.com/

11-29-2006, 10:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Quad82 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Morrice, MI Posts: 1,562	Spend the extra money for the sinterend pads (metal shavings imbedded in the asbetos material). The others are junk. I always figured people put them on for a selling cosmetic. Like brand new Cheap tires on a car. Very important, check your brake rotor. If you grind down the pads or run in mud, your rotor will gull. This will kill the life of your new pads in a hurry. __________________ 04 KFX 440 03 KFX 440 01 DR-Z400S S-10 Crewcab Morrice, Michigan

11-29-2006, 11:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
johnsoninc86 :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 245	what does gull mean? Should we be lookin into a new rotor if we have run the pads down to bare metal? __________________ 2003 White Z400-sold... Bill Ballance full system, DRZe kit, Kibblewhites, Wiseco piston, FLEXX bars, Hipers, Razr2/Razr combo, GTT 450r fronts/ rear rebuild, Clarke 4.0g tank, DID 3/4 cam chain, PEP stabilizer, Acerbis Rally II's, Maier vent hood, Oury grips, AC standard nerfs, armadillo swinger/chassis skid, tusk tether kill, 03 Sub modded for ProArmor Grab bar, PRM baja bumper, LSR PB block off, Moose perch, Barnett Dirt Digger clutch, RK Chains X-ring, 13t front sprocket, Factory Effex seat cover and graphics, more to come..... "I am being chased through the woods by a bunch of nutcases out to steal my $2 trophy that I paid $40+ to TRY to take home with me!" #151 IXCR B-Class Lincoln Trail Motosports A-Class Big thanks to my '08 sponsors- GT Thunder, Scott, Harley Davidson of Bloomington, Joe Stines, the parents and the girlfriend

11-30-2006, 07:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
PeeWee :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hurricane, West Virginia Posts: 3,241	This is a good thread....it's getting pinned!!! On another note...how long would pads under normal riding conditions last? You all will think i'm crazy but my 03 KFX still has stock pads on it...front and rear....of course...for the most of it's life it only seen an mx track 2 times a week.

11-30-2006, 01:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Quad82 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Morrice, MI Posts: 1,562	Gulling is the groves worn into the rotor from uneven surfaces on the brake pad or backing plate. Like if the pad is totaly gone the metal plate that the pads were glued on to rub the rotor. Take your finger and slide it across the rotor where the brake pad would make contact. It needs to be smooth. If it's gouged you should buy a new rotor to save wearing out new pads. On a car, you have the rotors turned to smooth them out. But on a quad or bike there isn't enough thickness to turn them. Replacement is the only option. __________________ 04 KFX 440 03 KFX 440 01 DR-Z400S S-10 Crewcab Morrice, Michigan

12-01-2006, 11:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
advantagecycle :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,287	Since brake maintance is being discussed, I want to point out another common problem that is often overlooked. The caliper "floats" on the main stay bolted to the carrier. These float pins need to be lubed every so often for the caliper to self center properly. I use spray grease, and just stick the little red straw under the edge of each boot when we do brake jobs. Work it a few times by hand to make sure its not binding. Paul Attached Thumbnails __________________ Full Circle Parts/Service/Engine Building www.AdvantageCycleLC.com Email: AdvantageCycle@aol.com 515/961-5699 Please note: I don't check the site PM's, so please email me direct if you would like to send a message.

12-01-2006, 11:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
Joshz400_03 Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Green Bay, Wi Posts: 8,298	If your pads wear extreamly fast your rotor might be bent!!! happened to me __________________ KB Motorsports My Mod List 07' LT-R 450 03' Z434 10' SSR DX-3 110 Buick Brother

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