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:::Mini LT50 Rider:::
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I have changed my air filter to a bigger air filter and now it pops on deceleration. My valves are in tolerence and it has never done this before I changed the filter. Would a bigger main jet work or would it be the idle jet being that it only does it on decel.
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2003 kfx tc racing athena 440, tc 924 national mx cams,port and polished head, fcr carb, 400ex boot ,um airbox , uni filter ,durablue axle x-33 ,lonestar +2 +1 dc-4 a-arms, tcs lt shocks full travel inovations,bare gusseted frame,burgard steering stem+1, renthal bars,ac garbar,ac front black bumber,black maier plastic, lonestar +1.25 st swingarm, , yoshi cdi, proarmor fat bar nerfs, hmf full exhaust, trail tech flywheel. |
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Try adjusting your fuel screw or moving up to a bigger pilot jet.
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some popping on decel is normal with modified intake and exhaust, so adjust your jetting for idle/running, NOT decel.
if there is excessive popping in the exhaust, a lean pilot circuit is the cause. if it is idling strong, and doesnt hang in high rpms after you blip the throttle, i wouldnt touch the jetting. on decel from high revs, the engine has a much stronger vacuum signal than normal, which throws the pilot circuit A/F ratio toward the lean side. once the engine is at low rpms the vac signal is where the jetting was set for and the pilot circuit works as intended. the vacuum signal shift is usually amplified with intake and exhaust mods.
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:::Mini LT50 Rider:::
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Thank you all for the quick response. I will try the pilot jet first. It used to pop a little but now it has gotten extreme.
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2003 kfx tc racing athena 440, tc 924 national mx cams,port and polished head, fcr carb, 400ex boot ,um airbox , uni filter ,durablue axle x-33 ,lonestar +2 +1 dc-4 a-arms, tcs lt shocks full travel inovations,bare gusseted frame,burgard steering stem+1, renthal bars,ac garbar,ac front black bumber,black maier plastic, lonestar +1.25 st swingarm, , yoshi cdi, proarmor fat bar nerfs, hmf full exhaust, trail tech flywheel. |
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just open up your fuel screw some.....same as going to a bigger pilot.
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:::Mini LT50 Rider:::
Join Date: May 2012
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For some reason, I like my Poping on deceleration, i think it sounds cool.
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how much is some?
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2003 kfx tc racing athena 440, tc 924 national mx cams,port and polished head, fcr carb, 400ex boot ,um airbox , uni filter ,durablue axle x-33 ,lonestar +2 +1 dc-4 a-arms, tcs lt shocks full travel inovations,bare gusseted frame,burgard steering stem+1, renthal bars,ac garbar,ac front black bumber,black maier plastic, lonestar +1.25 st swingarm, , yoshi cdi, proarmor fat bar nerfs, hmf full exhaust, trail tech flywheel. |
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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try half a turn each time until it stops
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dont adjust the fuel screw to fix the popping. adjust the fuel screw the proper way (engine running at idle, turn it in until you get the highest rpms....i think there is a sticky on it if you havent done it before.) and leave it regardless of the popping.
would you rather have it foul plugs and have bad off idle throttle response with a hanging idle and no pop on decel? or would you rather have it run mint with a pop on decel?
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It did idle little lower when i went to the bigger filter. then i just bumped up the idle a little. I ordered a pilot jet first, then if it is way out of wack then I will just dea with the poping. It is just the popping is so loud and annoying.
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2003 kfx tc racing athena 440, tc 924 national mx cams,port and polished head, fcr carb, 400ex boot ,um airbox , uni filter ,durablue axle x-33 ,lonestar +2 +1 dc-4 a-arms, tcs lt shocks full travel inovations,bare gusseted frame,burgard steering stem+1, renthal bars,ac garbar,ac front black bumber,black maier plastic, lonestar +1.25 st swingarm, , yoshi cdi, proarmor fat bar nerfs, hmf full exhaust, trail tech flywheel. |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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New filter increased air flow..At WOT is the main circut and pops on decel cause its lean on high RPM's..bump main jet a couple of sizes. Pilot is start to a 1/4 throttle..doesnt do nothin on WOT leave fuel screw alone till ya bump up main jet.. put new plug in run through gears, at WOT cut it off and pull plug..if its greyish or tanish its good..black is rich..white ,still looks new = LEAN...my 2 cents
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and like i keep saying, dont tune your jetting based on what it does during decel, unless you are only going to be engine braking down the worlds longest hill every time you ride.
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pilot circuit..........
Zookie, there is such a thing as too much popping. I've experienced it on my wife's quad. Tuned her fuel screw correctly and it's minimzed a great deal but not gone. How many turns is your screw open now? Try tuning the fuel screw exactly how it is described in the sticky.
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