RM250 powered 400ex Build - Suzuki Z400 Forum : Z400 Forums
  Yamaha YFZ450

Suzuki Z400

Suzuki LT-R450



Kawasaki KFX450

ATV Videos

Can-Am DS450
 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-27-2011, 09:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
711streetfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 1,208
Default RM250 powered 400ex Build

Well I started today, WOO HOO.. First problem is that the 400ex axle pivot bolt (15mm OD) is 2mm smaller then the RM250 swingarm pivot bolt (17mm OD). That means the engine will not stay straight or stay steady on the swingarm bolt. I had to make a bushing. I went to the machine shop and they wouldn't make me one. So darn I thought off to Home Depot and Lowes to figure something out. Well home depot was a no go. Went next door to lowes and found a copper pipe that I eyeballed and it looked close with in a 1mm or so. But darn I forgot my digital calipers. So I bought it anyways and took it home. It was the perfect thickness to take up the space between the 400ex pivot bolt and RM250 cases but it was to 1mm to big in diameter. To easy. Here's the steps.
Video showing play between 400ex pivot and rm cases


Supplies





1. Cut to length needed.


2. Used a square and scribed a straight line down the center. Then I cut a 1mm wide cut along that line with a dremel and filed it until when I squeeze it on the pivot bolt it's snug.


3. Cut into two pieces so that I can split the cases without removing it.


4. Placed it on the 400ex pivot bolt and squeezed it with vise grips then gave it some love with the hammer. Slid in perfectly.


End Result:


Got the motor test fitted and to measure the chain alignment. I'm 8mm off on lining up the sprockets. So tomorrow I will cut the swingarm on the chain side to get it in line then cut the spacers and its on to motor mounts.


__________________
LRD Attitude Aluminum Frame, 462cc Stroker, 41mm FCR, 540/539cams, Curtis Sparks Exhaust, Dyna Prog, Fox Float EVOL DSC up front, +2 Burgard A-arms, Janssen Outlaw Rear Suspension Kit with Elka stage 3 shock, Team Industries +3 Axle, Hipers, Flexx Bars, Laker Plastics, intake by me, front mounted battery, Rekluse EXP clutch, Trailtech flywheel, and a few other goodies .
711streetfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-27-2011, 09:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
:::Official Spammer:::
 
TuckerHardRide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 3,247
Default

I'm loving these hybrid threads! Good luck with it and good job with the pivot bolt, I think i'm gonna go make sure my Z's bolt moves freely.
__________________
2006 LTR450
Engine Mods:
Yoshimira Cherry Bomb - RS-5 Full Exhaust - Inspection Plug
Choke B/O Nut - Start Button
JE Piston
Suspension, Steering & Chassis:
Flexx Bars w Turner Clamps - Precision Damper - Tag Skid Plate
Powermadds - LT Fox Evol w FuelATV A-Arms - Fox Podium Rear
Pro Armor Grab Bar - IMS Roll Nerf + Heel + Bumper
Misc:
DID X-Ring Chain - Sprocket Guard - Frame Guards - ProDesign K/S
Hiper Tec 3 - ITP Beadlock Rear Rims


Parted Out: 2004 LTZ400 - September 2011 QOTM
TuckerHardRide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2011, 09:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
711streetfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 1,208
Default

Pivot bolt is fitted perfect now. I have the chain alignment to knock out tomorrow along with engine mounts if I have time.
__________________
LRD Attitude Aluminum Frame, 462cc Stroker, 41mm FCR, 540/539cams, Curtis Sparks Exhaust, Dyna Prog, Fox Float EVOL DSC up front, +2 Burgard A-arms, Janssen Outlaw Rear Suspension Kit with Elka stage 3 shock, Team Industries +3 Axle, Hipers, Flexx Bars, Laker Plastics, intake by me, front mounted battery, Rekluse EXP clutch, Trailtech flywheel, and a few other goodies .
711streetfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 07:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
:::Rookie Rider:::
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5
Default

how can we fit an pivot can i know it or should i go and meet the mechanic?
__________________
Car Accessories Online
richerman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 08:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
:::Ozark 250 rider:::
 
chrisroberts916's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Medina, Ohio
Posts: 349
Default

That's the best thing you could of done with that Honda, put a Suzuki motor in it!
Looking good
__________________
2007 Z with a couple mods - see below vvvvvv
snap-im-finally-starting-my-own-build-thread

2004 Z with a couple mods
chrisroberts916 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2012, 03:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
711streetfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 1,208
Default

LOL so true. Haven't done much with it since I threw my back out 2 weeks ago but I finished the motor mounts, frame repairs, and electrics. Now its time to fab the pipe up. Here's some pics of what I did today. And I ordered a RMX250 transmission since it has gearing that is relatively close to what you need in a quad.






__________________
LRD Attitude Aluminum Frame, 462cc Stroker, 41mm FCR, 540/539cams, Curtis Sparks Exhaust, Dyna Prog, Fox Float EVOL DSC up front, +2 Burgard A-arms, Janssen Outlaw Rear Suspension Kit with Elka stage 3 shock, Team Industries +3 Axle, Hipers, Flexx Bars, Laker Plastics, intake by me, front mounted battery, Rekluse EXP clutch, Trailtech flywheel, and a few other goodies .

Last edited by 711streetfighter; 01-14-2012 at 03:36 AM.
711streetfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2012, 03:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
woodsrider129's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Owensboro, KY
Posts: 1,205
Default

Your project looks like its coming along pretty good. Other than the mentioned tranny, do you have any other plans for the engine performance-wise?

Last edited by woodsrider129; 01-14-2012 at 03:56 AM.
woodsrider129 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2012, 06:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
:::Ozark 250 rider:::
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: southern indiana
Posts: 350
Default

update pleaseee awesome job so far
__________________
2007 LTZ 400
Mods
Uni Air Filter, LRD Pro 4 Full, HDUSA +2, 13t&42t
Dash lights & Key Relocated, Pro Armor Nerfs,Bumper, Grab Bar, Race cut fenders
2012 Sponsors
O'neal USA, AXO, Fuel, Braking,Pro Armor, Sun Star, Hinson, Leatt,Race Tech, SMX, EKS, Slick, Factory Backing, Scar Racing
jake47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2012, 06:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
:::Mini LT50 Rider:::
 
xtremkfx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 51
Default

I always wanted to do something like this...can't wait to see updates. I wanted to go big though, like CBR, Busa,GSXR........funds just won't allow it as of now.
__________________
2004
KFX400
757 front bumper
baja wide grab bar
TandT block off plate
Alba pro peg nerf bars
Moose bars
EVO Pro-Grips
Custom Rad shrouds(by me)
Custom frame guards(by me)
Custom air-box lid(by me)
Custom front frame guard(by me)
Custom full skid(by me)
xtremkfx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2012, 08:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
711streetfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 1,208
Default

It's going I haven't had time since I was in NYC all last week. Got home Sat and spent time with the family. The hold up is the pipe, it's a lot of fab work. I didn't like the way it was going so I tore it all apart last night. I'm gonna route it like a 250r pipe. I couldn't get the pipe length right the way I was running it. Then I got a tig welder last week so I practiced a few hours before using it on the pipe.
__________________
LRD Attitude Aluminum Frame, 462cc Stroker, 41mm FCR, 540/539cams, Curtis Sparks Exhaust, Dyna Prog, Fox Float EVOL DSC up front, +2 Burgard A-arms, Janssen Outlaw Rear Suspension Kit with Elka stage 3 shock, Team Industries +3 Axle, Hipers, Flexx Bars, Laker Plastics, intake by me, front mounted battery, Rekluse EXP clutch, Trailtech flywheel, and a few other goodies .
711streetfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2012, 12:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
711streetfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 1,208
Default

Na nothing fancy for engine work planned there woods, I just want to see how it works first. After that maybe but I doubt it.
__________________
LRD Attitude Aluminum Frame, 462cc Stroker, 41mm FCR, 540/539cams, Curtis Sparks Exhaust, Dyna Prog, Fox Float EVOL DSC up front, +2 Burgard A-arms, Janssen Outlaw Rear Suspension Kit with Elka stage 3 shock, Team Industries +3 Axle, Hipers, Flexx Bars, Laker Plastics, intake by me, front mounted battery, Rekluse EXP clutch, Trailtech flywheel, and a few other goodies .

Last edited by 711streetfighter; 01-26-2012 at 12:21 AM.
711streetfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2012, 07:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
:::LT250 Rider:::
 
decentZ89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 809
Default

thats bad ass though..i love 2 strokes
__________________
2003 Suzuki Ltz 400 -got some stuff
2000 Honda XR50 - pitbike
2006 Nissan SE-R Spec-v - daily driver
1993 Jeep Wrangler - built and swapped
decentZ89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2012, 07:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
mana_z400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dubai - United Arab Emirates
Posts: 1,652
Send a message via MSN to mana_z400 Send a message via Yahoo to mana_z400
Default

Looking good!!

2 smokers are fun!!
__________________
05 Z470

Mods: 1 or 2

Augest 2010 POTM
mana_z400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2012, 05:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
:::Rookie Rider:::
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3
Default

I'm planning on doing something like this wit a z400how many hours of frame work did u need to pit in to get the engine to sit right?
cassidy 12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2012, 06:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
:::LT500 Rider:::
 
711streetfighter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 1,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cassidy 12 View Post
I'm planning on doing something like this wit a z400how many hours of frame work did u need to pit in to get the engine to sit right?
Umm about 3 hours time to get the swingarm right and about 4 hours on the mounts, repair frame cracks, and do the gussets. Lots more on the pipe, trying to fab up my own using the rm250 pipe and custom cones to run it similar to the trx250r pipes without changing it to much from the rm250 dimensions. I did lengthen the header of the pipe to increase low end torque but I went over board lol. I need to shorten it and make more cones to get it right. My measurements were off ooops. Here's a pic of where I'm at now with the pipe.



After the pipe the next challenge is to fab up a kick start extension. Basically what I have to do is cut the splined part off the shaft then weld it back together after machining an extension on the lathe. I need to go 2 1/2" to get it to clear everything. Oh and switch to a rm125 kick lever, that way its shorter and less cutting of the plastic to make it work.
__________________
LRD Attitude Aluminum Frame, 462cc Stroker, 41mm FCR, 540/539cams, Curtis Sparks Exhaust, Dyna Prog, Fox Float EVOL DSC up front, +2 Burgard A-arms, Janssen Outlaw Rear Suspension Kit with Elka stage 3 shock, Team Industries +3 Axle, Hipers, Flexx Bars, Laker Plastics, intake by me, front mounted battery, Rekluse EXP clutch, Trailtech flywheel, and a few other goodies .

Last edited by 711streetfighter; 01-26-2012 at 06:26 PM.
711streetfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:13 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2