Lower Ball Joint Mod - Page 2

deicide610 · 04-28-2011, 11:21 PM

THATS GREAT! Instead of buying a whole new lower arm for $120, Time 2 fabracate!! Thank u very much bro!! GIT SUM!!

Pat · 05-09-2011, 08:12 PM

just got done with the mod, was a lil more difficult getting the drill bits to go through straight and the tap to go in straight, but all in all its a good mod, no more sketchy steering from shot ball joints.

hitman44 · 05-10-2011, 06:29 PM

how about a fix for the same problem but with a roll designs arm? any ideas? they dont seem to care about helping their customers since no one has got back to me even after 4 emails and 2 phone calls...

hawaiianbasshead · 06-18-2011, 05:52 PM

I don't have z400 arms yet for a conversion I'm doing. are the upper spindle holes/ball joint the same size? I'd like to make it adjustable, I'm thinking either weld a bung on or cut, drill and tap like you guys are doing, welding would be faster I think lol but taping would be cleaner I imagine.

'04 LTZ Racer · 07-02-2011, 10:57 PM

I would say tapping would be better because you wouldn't have to cut it out next time you replace them. And I think it would hold up better than a weld anyway.

shaner · 07-05-2011, 09:45 PM

these tie rods from a geo tracker.Will they work on 03 stock arms?

AdrenalineJunky · 10-13-2011, 09:04 PM

Great write up. I will be doing this shortly. Couldn't find the tap at Sears or Menards. I was thinking Fastenal but probably want arm and leg and first born. Once again. Great stuff!!!

007kfx · 03-30-2012, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaner

these tie rods from a geo tracker.Will they work on 03 stock arms?

anyone have a answer to this...?doing some pregame prep

Jlyons10 · 04-01-2012, 04:26 PM

Great mod! I'm doing this now just got one a arm cut with a chop saw and cleaned up. Decided to look for the tap drill size myself.

Correct size is 14.7 mm drill
14.7/25.4= .5787
9/16 = .5625
.0162 too small to be exact

Standard equivalent drill would be 37/64
Which is .5781 only .0006 smaller.

This will tap much smoother and you will have the perfect amount of thread engagement. And minor dia will be correct.

Just figured I would post to make the tapping process easier. And the threads feel cleaner.

andy castle · 04-03-2012, 02:50 AM

i put these on my 05 i bought the right ricky stator part # and it goes right up in the hole all the way had to use washers to keep nut from bottoming out after all this work i lost alot of suspension travel took apart and took a grinder to the bottom of the steering nuckle the ball joints were hitting them bunch of crap to get my travel back what did i do wrong not sure if any of you guys have done this on a 05 or newer if so did you have same isues as i did im going to be out alot of money on this upgrade if the ricky stator part # is the wrong one not sure what went wrong but mines not workin quite write please help

andy castle · 04-05-2012, 09:33 PM

the 05 and newer ricky stator ball joints part #rs3003 is the wrong tapper trust me i know i did it and low and behold im screwed any ideas as to what ball joint works other wise i have to well buy all new a arms and such. Oh did i mention i also did my wifes as well but to late did all 4 lower arms same time then when i went to put mine together it hit me wow they are smaller tapper. augh now what? any suggestions from anybody?

bobmilspaw · 04-05-2012, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy castle

the 05 and newer ricky stator ball joints part #rs3003 is the wrong tapper trust me i know i did it and low and behold im screwed any ideas as to what ball joint works other wise i have to well buy all new a arms and such. Oh did i mention i also did my wifes as well but to late did all 4 lower arms same time then when i went to put mine together it hit me wow they are smaller tapper. augh now what? any suggestions from anybody?

tell me more. i am about to do this mod to my 2006, with the original posted part numbers. eyeballing the two ball ends, they look similar if not the same.

what exactly is your problem? does the ball joint not fit in the spindle?

andy castle · 04-06-2012, 07:58 AM

its smaller, the tapper like i said i bought 4 of them the part # is on the back of the ball joint itself so i got the right ones i took my calipers and measured them stock width at widest point is 0.554 ricky stator part #rs3003 0.513 a little different. To the naked eye they look the same but are not i have sent an e-mail to the place i bought them and am waiting for a response to see if they can help me with this issue lets hope so. I will let you know as soon as i find out something.

bobmilspaw · 04-06-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy castle

its smaller, the tapper like i said i bought 4 of them the part # is on the back of the ball joint itself so i got the right ones i took my calipers and measured them stock width at widest point is 0.554 ricky stator part #rs3003 0.513 a little different. To the naked eye they look the same but are not i have sent an e-mail to the place i bought them and am waiting for a response to see if they can help me with this issue lets hope so. I will let you know as soon as i find out something.

Please keep me posted. Was hoping to have the front end buttoned up for a ride next weekend.

andy castle · 04-14-2012, 09:36 PM

had to have sleeves made up to finish the mod on my 2005 local machine shop did them for me cost 25.00$ a side they made a blueprint and said they would make more if needed they work for the ricky stator rs 3003 ball joints and put the ball joint in the proper position awesome now im back to full travel on the darn thing pm me if anybody needs some

05-09-2011, 08:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
Pat :::Mini LT50 Rider::: Join Date: May 2011 Location: Genoa, Nebraska Posts: 53	just got done with the mod, was a lil more difficult getting the drill bits to go through straight and the tap to go in straight, but all in all its a good mod, no more sketchy steering from shot ball joints. __________________ 04 z400 Stock engine till winter motorsport nerfs cobra atv bumper full DR fat boy 4 holeshots in rear pro design intake w/ k&n *lower ball joint mod* (kfxguy race cut) fenders *wiseco ss valves*

06-18-2011, 05:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
hawaiianbasshead :::Mini LT50 Rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kailua-Kona, HI Posts: 127	I don't have z400 arms yet for a conversion I'm doing. are the upper spindle holes/ball joint the same size? I'd like to make it adjustable, I'm thinking either weld a bung on or cut, drill and tap like you guys are doing, welding would be faster I think lol but taping would be cleaner I imagine. __________________ 07 ltr450 92 Lt250r 04 kasea 90/trx250r front roller/kasea motor back and plastix

07-02-2011, 10:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
'04 LTZ Racer :::Ozark 250 rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Warren, PA Posts: 285	I would say tapping would be better because you wouldn't have to cut it out next time you replace them. And I think it would hold up better than a weld anyway. __________________ 2005 YFZ450 Pro Armor Revolution Nerfs Pro Armor XC Front Bumper Pro Taper Bars Stage 3 Hot Cams Hot Rods Crank Wiseco Piston Maxxis Razr II's Big Thanks To All Of the People Who Have Helped Me Over The Years: Mom And Dad Grandpa And Grandma Tom Carlson At TC Racing Nate McNett At McNett Performance ~In Loving Memory Of Dave Morelli, Thanks Grandpa~

04-01-2012, 04:26 PM	#24 (permalink)
Jlyons10 :::Mini LT50 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: INDIANA Posts: 82	Great mod! I'm doing this now just got one a arm cut with a chop saw and cleaned up. Decided to look for the tap drill size myself. Correct size is 14.7 mm drill 14.7/25.4= .5787 9/16 = .5625 .0162 too small to be exact Standard equivalent drill would be 37/64 Which is .5781 only .0006 smaller. This will tap much smoother and you will have the perfect amount of thread engagement. And minor dia will be correct. Just figured I would post to make the tapping process easier. And the threads feel cleaner. __________________ pin it to win it.

04-28-2011, 11:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
deicide610 :::Ozark 250 rider::: Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: plattsburgh, ny Posts: 325	THATS GREAT! Instead of buying a whole new lower arm for $120, Time 2 fabracate!! Thank u very much bro!! GIT SUM!!

05-10-2011, 06:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
hitman44 :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: May 2011 Location: batavia ny Posts: 573	how about a fix for the same problem but with a roll designs arm? any ideas? they dont seem to care about helping their customers since no one has got back to me even after 4 emails and 2 phone calls...

07-05-2011, 09:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
shaner :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 1	these tie rods from a geo tracker.Will they work on 03 stock arms?

10-13-2011, 09:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
AdrenalineJunky :::Mini LT80 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Jackson,OH Posts: 152	Great write up. I will be doing this shortly. Couldn't find the tap at Sears or Menards. I was thinking Fastenal but probably want arm and leg and first born. Once again. Great stuff!!!

04-03-2012, 02:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
andy castle :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	i put these on my 05 i bought the right ricky stator part # and it goes right up in the hole all the way had to use washers to keep nut from bottoming out after all this work i lost alot of suspension travel took apart and took a grinder to the bottom of the steering nuckle the ball joints were hitting them bunch of crap to get my travel back what did i do wrong not sure if any of you guys have done this on a 05 or newer if so did you have same isues as i did im going to be out alot of money on this upgrade if the ricky stator part # is the wrong one not sure what went wrong but mines not workin quite write please help

04-05-2012, 09:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
andy castle :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	the 05 and newer ricky stator ball joints part #rs3003 is the wrong tapper trust me i know i did it and low and behold im screwed any ideas as to what ball joint works other wise i have to well buy all new a arms and such. Oh did i mention i also did my wifes as well but to late did all 4 lower arms same time then when i went to put mine together it hit me wow they are smaller tapper. augh now what? any suggestions from anybody?

04-06-2012, 07:58 AM	#28 (permalink)
andy castle :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	its smaller, the tapper like i said i bought 4 of them the part # is on the back of the ball joint itself so i got the right ones i took my calipers and measured them stock width at widest point is 0.554 ricky stator part #rs3003 0.513 a little different. To the naked eye they look the same but are not i have sent an e-mail to the place i bought them and am waiting for a response to see if they can help me with this issue lets hope so. I will let you know as soon as i find out something.

04-14-2012, 09:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
andy castle :::Rookie Rider::: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	had to have sleeves made up to finish the mod on my 2005 local machine shop did them for me cost 25.00$ a side they made a blueprint and said they would make more if needed they work for the ricky stator rs 3003 ball joints and put the ball joint in the proper position awesome now im back to full travel on the darn thing pm me if anybody needs some

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