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Old 01-19-2012, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've hit a few small jumps at a friends house, nothing more than 4' tall. In about a week or two im going to dirty foot in FL to ride trails and the MX track. How do you all hit bigger jumps? I found that i pull hardest in 3rd so i feather my throttle until i need to pull and "romp" the throttle. Any other opinions on good ways to jump?
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it all depends on the jump. after you have lots of riding experience it will be natural.
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have that problem also, the way I'm learning is go about half throttle up to it and about 5 or 6 feet full throttle it!
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I feel i have more control over how far i will launch this way as opposed to just going in full speed
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A lot has to do with while your in the air. Throttle up to lift nose tap rear brake to bring it down. Tapping your brake helps a lot to level you out, which in turn, softer landings. A good landing always makes for a good jump.

Never seen Evil Kenevil let up the gas or hit the brakes before a jump either.
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If your jumping in the top of third gear, then your next step is hitting it in top of fourth gear. Just remember to always lean back if your just starting to jump. Do it enough times and you can go faster. I used to go up to a jump, mid throttle, anticipating when I almost come up to the lip of the jump to hammer the throttle. Now I hall ass to the lip already on top of fourth standing up already leaning back just a little and just fly with the speed I already have. I would probably hit the rev limiter and wreck if I hammer the throttlle after being wide open in fouth. It takes practice, not jumping, but knowing the center of gravity on your machine. Knowing your machine and what it's capable of and how comfortable you are with it. Practice makes perfect
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Here's me and a couple of buddies hitting some jumps at hollister hills a couple years back. Notice the raptor nose dives a little and lands kinda weird sometimes, thats because he feathers the throttle and hammers it at the lip

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i will ramble on this for a bit

dont hit the throttle at the top of the jump. all you are doing is double-lipping the jump and making it dangerous. double lipped jumps will kick you ass over tea kettle.

the best way to hit a jump is to be on the gas all the way up the face, DOES NOT NEED TO BE WIDE OPEN! understandably, its hard for beginner jumpers to be able to hit a jump while dragging the brakes to slow down before departure, and hitting it wide open the whole way might make you overshoot the landing.

rolling into the throttle from bottom to top of the jump will be smooth and controllable for the rider, and it wont chop away at the top making a death kicker.

if the jump gets double lipped, you will want to seat bounce to make the quad "miss" the second lip that would otherwise kill you. sometimes i have found that keeping my ass in the seat for the entire face of the jump helps with this too, but not always.

landing on the throttle helps, but dont panic rev the whole way through the air because you will end up pointing to the moon and all the girlies will laugh at you. you want to hit the gas a little before the rear tires hit. also, i dont ever let off completely in the air. if you take off wide open, try to hold it 1/4 throttle so the quad doesnt nose dive and the wheels are spinning and the engine is in a rev range where it will respond when you hit the gas to land and GO.

if it feels hairy coming up to it, dont be afraid to abort. helicopter rides are only fun at the fair, not fun when you are in a neck brace and soaked in your own urine. rip the bars left and right and go off to the side or squeeze the piss out of your brakes. ps- make sure front and rear brakes work BEFORE you go flying.

as mentioned before, tap the rear brake to get the nose down or.....gas it to get the nose up. i would recommend experimenting with this over a low easy table top. its a wierd feeling when you grab the rear brakes and you pitch forward hard, so knowing what will happen would be nice before you are hitting the skyshot. grabbing the front brakes will also pitch the nose down HOWEVER...if it goes down too far you cannot gas it to get the fronts spinning again and nose up. so unless you are halfway through an unplanned backflip, i wouldnt grab the fronts.

if you are nose down and panic revving isnt helping and death is eminent, lean the FCUK back.

you want to be hitting he face as straight as possible, and sometimes this is challenging because often the exit of a berm is all chopped up and you end up bouncing around and sliding sideways while trying to line up with the face. a trick i learned when the going gets rough, is to hold the gas wide open and apply rear brake pressure. this will stiffen up the rear suspension a little and sometimes it helps. depending on what the track is like, it may hurt too...so a little experimenting is involved.

also, if you are trying to follow a line through a corner that has become choppy, maybe try doing honda turns. whats a honda turn? im glad you asked, its rather interesting. honda 450r statistically is better at taking a square corner. one line in, brakes and pivot on the berm, one line out. this differs from most machines that are much better with a wide open sweep ("railing the berm") and the most common style of riding so thats usually the line that will get choppy. obviously this all depend on the shape and size of the corner and berm, most really small berms can only be hit square, no room for sweeping through.

if you are riding where there are a lot of pros, beware of the landing. pros have this tendency to land right at the very bottom of the landing, wide open and consistant every time. this will create a bowl at the bottom of the landing. for this thread we can call it the death bowl. or bowl of death. i call it the death bowl because when you land close to the bottom, and your front tires clear the bowl, the rear suspension compresses fully right when the rear tires exit the bowl (read: rear tires want to go up fast now). it will give you one hell of a buck. not a pony buck, not a bull buck, a pissed off thoroughbred buck. its the quads way of saying "you're done now. please get off". i fell victim to this really bad once, i stood up in my boxers, boots, helmet, and lots of blood. my protector, jersey, and pants had shredded off of me as i tumbled from 4th wide open to ZERO.

if you will be hitting doubles, dont undershoot it. your balls will be in your mouth and you will talk like mickey mouse. doubles (and triples) really need to be hit perfectly, or overshot. anything less is just no bueno and painful. unless you installed elkas on your skidplate. that would be awesome.

make sure your tire pressures are even left to right. half a PSI can do funny things on the face of a jump.

hope this doesnt scare anyone. when you get the taste of jumping you can't get enough, its just important to be smart. roll the track first, check everything out. follow someone over it who knows what speed to hit things if you can, that takes a lot of guesswork out of the equation.

if the jump is too big or technical for you, you are not a sissy for rolling it or going around it. there are plenty of jumps i dont hit and maybe someday i will but i need to be able to go to work the next day so until i am totally confident and comfortable ill just hit the big jumps like a slow single. most c and b, and some A class riders will omit the bigger doubles.

dont forget to have fun!

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wow i typed a lot. nice video pulido, that looks like a great practice track.
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hope this doesnt scare anyone. when you get the taste of jumping you can't get enough, its just important to be smart. roll the track first, check everything out. follow someone over it who knows what speed to hit things if you can, that takes a lot of guesswork out of the equation.
A lot of my mishaps happen in the first 15 minutes of riding. Get use to the jump, track and machine again. No matter that it's your quad and track, today is a new day. My brother who I ride with 95% of the time ALWAYS reminds me about the first 15 minute rule. It does help.

great write up zookie!
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Thanks zookie, sounds like you've hit a few jumps in your time. Sweet @sz pic to, like i said i was hitting a small jump and after the millionth time im bored with it. Thats what i meant by feathering into a full romp was up the face not off the lip(found out after the first spill that it wasnt the best way). Im pretty excited to go on a real mx track and dont want to look like a complete fool or sissy out there.
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you'll look like a bigger fool if you go out and crash. take it easy and get used to it.
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Wicked right up...I won't be givin' a ' brwaaap' at the top any more.Killer thread...can't wait to school my dirt bike buddies! BWAAAHAAAHAHAHAAA!
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here is a good way of jumping i think constant on the gas and stuff... tell me if you think it helps.


this might help you get the concept of jumping also
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I've hit a few small jumps at a friends house, nothing more than 4' tall. In about a week or two im going to dirty foot in FL to ride trails and the MX track. How do you all hit bigger jumps? I found that i pull hardest in 3rd so i feather my throttle until i need to pull and "romp" the throttle. Any other opinions on good ways to jump?

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I don't really think there any universal ways to hit a jump. There are sooo many variables. The way I have learned(mabey not the best) is on smaller doubles I hit it like a single untill I'm landing almost right on the base of the landing, then that gives me a really good idea on how fast I should hit it and how the jump sends me in the air. But that only works for landings with a face that isn't too steep. With a steep faced landing I honestly try to overshoot it, then dial down my speed and try to regain feelinh in my jewls Tabletops aren't rocket science, try it out see how you fly and how far then adjust your speed and body english accordingly.

Honestly you ARE going to case landings, its almost inevitable. Also dont be afraid when your coming up to a jump, the worst thing you can do is let off the throttle, you will be pulling your bumper out of your oil tank. Be brave they don't call this sport "safe". we can only be as safe as possible, which includes being smart, knowing your limits, your quads limits and HAVING COMMON SENSE!!!

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