Help For Drag setup!

gbk 1978 · 10-27-2011, 10:47 PM

Ok guys you will see my setup in my signature. Before my last rebuild 3 weeks ago and addition mods like fcr 39mm 400ex boot and raptor petcock, in a 300' dirt drag and a few of my buddies kfx450r's if i kept my front end down and they didnt i beat them even though towards the end they pulled like crazy! and i weigh 270lbs.
My dilemma now as well as then is launch! especially now that i have a fcr 39mm and 400ex boot! and modded air box. i had curtis sparks piston 94mm piston kit with the stock 3 layer base gasket which at that point made it around the same as my new athena 94mm kit 12:3-1 ? with drz base!
ok i wanna know what i can do to keep my front end down during these drag races. mind you i do alot of trail riding as well. so is doing a lowering kit the way to go? if so lower just the front end or front and back? reason im asking id like to switch the setup rather quickly in between different riding sessions?
thanx

Mikeb3119 · 10-27-2011, 11:03 PM

Just lean forward and putt yourself kind of on the gas tank

grollerfmf1234 · 10-28-2011, 08:49 AM

You could also buy a +1 or +2 swingarm. That will really help with the front end lifting up while launching. And you will still be able to ride most other situations. If you lower it and go trail riding your front end ground clearance will be a lot less. From what I understand the lowering kit lowers your center of gravity and adds more stability around corners.

grollerfmf1234 · 10-28-2011, 08:51 AM

Or just add a weight like a tractor has on the front!!! Haha

gbk 1978 · 10-30-2011, 07:03 PM

ok i do lean forward alot and the sucker has pull and i aint the best wheelie rider so i lay it back down in third. Where do i get this swingarm +1?

Hughesc99 · 10-30-2011, 07:12 PM

Move your battery up front. That will help some. Also for a "cheap" lowering kit for the front, use ratchet straps. One for each shock and pull them pretty tight. Make sure they have a good tensile strength. Then when you trail ride, just take them off.

Dangerouspower · 10-30-2011, 08:23 PM

You beat me to it Hughesc. Just move your battery up front. Keep your eye open on here for a +1 swingarm. Post something up in the wanted section.

Mikeb3119 · 10-30-2011, 08:24 PM

How does moving your battery do anything?

Hughesc99 · 10-30-2011, 08:28 PM

Well your battery is weight that will help keep your front end down. I forget where I saw who did it on here. (Maybe Spize, CFMz440, or KFXguy).

Mikeb3119 · 10-30-2011, 09:04 PM

Haha a battery weights, what? 3 or 4 pounds maybe

z455 · 10-30-2011, 09:10 PM

I moved mine up front. I have a +2 swingarm and +1 forward a-arms. I can bring it up in 1st through 4th but I have to try to bring it up in 3rd and 4th. Moving the battey definatly helped.

Mikeb3119 · 10-30-2011, 09:14 PM

Its still hard for me to believe but if you guys say so haha

spize909 · 10-30-2011, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hughesc99

Well your battery is weight that will help keep your front end down. I forget where I saw who did it on here. (Maybe Spize, CFMz440, or KFXguy).

Not me..........I sit on the tank and start in second.
I would love an extended swinger though. Money is kind of flowing toward the sand rail (and the kids quad) these days.

kfxguy · 10-30-2011, 10:22 PM

Mine pull the wheels a couple inches in second... I leave in second anyway. I have a 4" swinger, and it's lowered. I don't really see the battery helping as much as the trouble youd go through to move it up front. Strap it down and that will help. It'll ride rough tho. My ultimate suggestion would be get some ltz250, trz250ex, or blaster or banshee shocks on the front. They are shorter. Then put a lowering link on the rear. You can change your height pretty quickly then. That's pretty much what I do. Also, 4" swinger is still just fine trail riding. Mine works well.

gbk 1978 · 11-06-2011, 06:35 PM

Dont really have the money for a longer swing but i will def. be lowering the front either with straps or those affordable brackets on ebay. Does anyone have any other suggestion as far as power mods i am a heavy guy and i can beat both my friends kfx450s but not by much. i weigh 270 and i am 100lbs more than these guys but unbeliveably my z kicks sum azz. still need alittle more. check my sig for suggestions

thax guys

10-27-2011, 10:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
gbk 1978 :::Z-250 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: High Point N.C. Posts: 469	Help For Drag setup! Ok guys you will see my setup in my signature. Before my last rebuild 3 weeks ago and addition mods like fcr 39mm 400ex boot and raptor petcock, in a 300' dirt drag and a few of my buddies kfx450r's if i kept my front end down and they didnt i beat them even though towards the end they pulled like crazy! and i weigh 270lbs. My dilemma now as well as then is launch! especially now that i have a fcr 39mm and 400ex boot! and modded air box. i had curtis sparks piston 94mm piston kit with the stock 3 layer base gasket which at that point made it around the same as my new athena 94mm kit 12:3-1 ? with drz base! ok i wanna know what i can do to keep my front end down during these drag races. mind you i do alot of trail riding as well. so is doing a lowering kit the way to go? if so lower just the front end or front and back? reason im asking id like to switch the setup rather quickly in between different riding sessions? thanx __________________ 2004 LTZ (OLE YELLAR) 435 athena bbk FCR 39mm 198main adjustable fuel screw 400ex boot raptor petcock Cams stage 2 hotcams New stock valves(oops) oh well DRZ-e kit trail tech -16oz flywheel Moose Racing clutch kit w HD Springs Dyna NP CDI port and polish Spectre air filter(WOW) Airbox delete Full yoshi offroad exhaust 13tooth front 42 aluminum rear ITP wheels front&rear DG bars ALBA nerfs Full skids maxxis 4snows NEED: +4 stroker crank +2 or+4 swinger

10-27-2011, 11:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mikeb3119 :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 667	Just lean forward and putt yourself kind of on the gas tank __________________ 04 z400 yoshi rs-3 ferrea valves drze springs velocity intake 12.6:1 JE piston nshc DID cam chain acct mod Raptor petcock mod 13/40(dunes) 14/40(asphalt) 42MM 04-05 450R carb dyna programmable

10-28-2011, 08:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
grollerfmf1234 :::Mini LT50 Rider::: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Berthoud, Colorado Posts: 55	You could also buy a +1 or +2 swingarm. That will really help with the front end lifting up while launching. And you will still be able to ride most other situations. If you lower it and go trail riding your front end ground clearance will be a lot less. From what I understand the lowering kit lowers your center of gravity and adds more stability around corners. __________________ 03 Z400 MaxPower 485 96mm/+4 Sroker kit Head soon to be ported & polished Web 540/539 Cams Kibblewhite std size valves DRZ valve springs, timing chain Fluidyne Oversized Radiator Dyna Programable Ignition 41mm Edelbrock Carb/FCR 39MM K&N Pro Flow Filter and adaptor Yoshimura Pipe/G-Force +2 Axle 04 Frame Powdercoated Yellow/Gusseted Black Maier Plastics ITP C-Series Black wheels/ITP Holeshot Tires PIAA Lights Black Pro Armor Full Nerfs/Pro Pegs Houser Steering Stem Renthal Fat Bars

10-28-2011, 08:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
grollerfmf1234 :::Mini LT50 Rider::: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Berthoud, Colorado Posts: 55	Or just add a weight like a tractor has on the front!!! Haha __________________ 03 Z400 MaxPower 485 96mm/+4 Sroker kit Head soon to be ported & polished Web 540/539 Cams Kibblewhite std size valves DRZ valve springs, timing chain Fluidyne Oversized Radiator Dyna Programable Ignition 41mm Edelbrock Carb/FCR 39MM K&N Pro Flow Filter and adaptor Yoshimura Pipe/G-Force +2 Axle 04 Frame Powdercoated Yellow/Gusseted Black Maier Plastics ITP C-Series Black wheels/ITP Holeshot Tires PIAA Lights Black Pro Armor Full Nerfs/Pro Pegs Houser Steering Stem Renthal Fat Bars

10-30-2011, 07:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
gbk 1978 :::Z-250 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: High Point N.C. Posts: 469	ok i do lean forward alot and the sucker has pull and i aint the best wheelie rider so i lay it back down in third. Where do i get this swingarm +1? __________________ 2004 LTZ (OLE YELLAR) 435 athena bbk FCR 39mm 198main adjustable fuel screw 400ex boot raptor petcock Cams stage 2 hotcams New stock valves(oops) oh well DRZ-e kit trail tech -16oz flywheel Moose Racing clutch kit w HD Springs Dyna NP CDI port and polish Spectre air filter(WOW) Airbox delete Full yoshi offroad exhaust 13tooth front 42 aluminum rear ITP wheels front&rear DG bars ALBA nerfs Full skids maxxis 4snows NEED: +4 stroker crank +2 or+4 swinger

10-30-2011, 07:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hughesc99 :::Post Whore::: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 2,108	Move your battery up front. That will help some. Also for a "cheap" lowering kit for the front, use ratchet straps. One for each shock and pull them pretty tight. Make sure they have a good tensile strength. Then when you trail ride, just take them off. __________________ 2006 Lt-Z434 Trinity IV Full Exhaust/OSHC/FCR39 w/AP Safety Wired/ Velocity Intake/Odi Rogue Grips/AC Nerfs Factory Suzuki Heel Guards/Durablue Rear Linkage +2+1 A-Arms

10-30-2011, 08:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dangerouspower :::KFX 400 Rider::: Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 931	You beat me to it Hughesc. Just move your battery up front. Keep your eye open on here for a +1 swingarm. Post something up in the wanted section.

10-30-2011, 08:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mikeb3119 :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 667	How does moving your battery do anything? __________________ 04 z400 yoshi rs-3 ferrea valves drze springs velocity intake 12.6:1 JE piston nshc DID cam chain acct mod Raptor petcock mod 13/40(dunes) 14/40(asphalt) 42MM 04-05 450R carb dyna programmable

10-30-2011, 08:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hughesc99 :::Post Whore::: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 2,108	Well your battery is weight that will help keep your front end down. I forget where I saw who did it on here. (Maybe Spize, CFMz440, or KFXguy). __________________ 2006 Lt-Z434 Trinity IV Full Exhaust/OSHC/FCR39 w/AP Safety Wired/ Velocity Intake/Odi Rogue Grips/AC Nerfs Factory Suzuki Heel Guards/Durablue Rear Linkage +2+1 A-Arms

10-30-2011, 09:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mikeb3119 :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 667	Haha a battery weights, what? 3 or 4 pounds maybe __________________ 04 z400 yoshi rs-3 ferrea valves drze springs velocity intake 12.6:1 JE piston nshc DID cam chain acct mod Raptor petcock mod 13/40(dunes) 14/40(asphalt) 42MM 04-05 450R carb dyna programmable

10-30-2011, 09:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
z455 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,230	I moved mine up front. I have a +2 swingarm and +1 forward a-arms. I can bring it up in 1st through 4th but I have to try to bring it up in 3rd and 4th. Moving the battey definatly helped. __________________ 04 LTZ 445 95mm CP 12.78:1************ Elka stage3 front & rear Web 540-539************* JRD +3 LT A-arms 42mm Kehin*************** Burguard +1.75 swingarm Full HMF shorty *********** Hiper tech3's in Kenda klaws Dyna programable********* Lonestar axle, carrier & stem

10-30-2011, 09:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mikeb3119 :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 667	Its still hard for me to believe but if you guys say so haha __________________ 04 z400 yoshi rs-3 ferrea valves drze springs velocity intake 12.6:1 JE piston nshc DID cam chain acct mod Raptor petcock mod 13/40(dunes) 14/40(asphalt) 42MM 04-05 450R carb dyna programmable

10-30-2011, 10:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
kfxguy :::Get a life! You're over 5000 posts::: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Louisiana baton rouge Posts: 5,953	Mine pull the wheels a couple inches in second... I leave in second anyway. I have a 4" swinger, and it's lowered. I don't really see the battery helping as much as the trouble youd go through to move it up front. Strap it down and that will help. It'll ride rough tho. My ultimate suggestion would be get some ltz250, trz250ex, or blaster or banshee shocks on the front. They are shorter. Then put a lowering link on the rear. You can change your height pretty quickly then. That's pretty much what I do. Also, 4" swinger is still just fine trail riding. Mine works well. __________________ OCTOBER 2009 QOTM KFX470 (The Black beast) -web cams custom grinds, titanium valves,cv4 springs -dyna programmable -4" extended swinger, rad aluminum axle -ported head (by me)(please do not pm me about head porting. Thx) -cp 94mm stroker piston, hot rods +5mm stroker -44mm straight bored fcr carb, Fci intake -powder coated everything

11-06-2011, 06:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
gbk 1978 :::Z-250 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: High Point N.C. Posts: 469	Dont really have the money for a longer swing but i will def. be lowering the front either with straps or those affordable brackets on ebay. Does anyone have any other suggestion as far as power mods i am a heavy guy and i can beat both my friends kfx450s but not by much. i weigh 270 and i am 100lbs more than these guys but unbeliveably my z kicks sum azz. still need alittle more. check my sig for suggestions thax guys __________________ 2004 LTZ (OLE YELLAR) 435 athena bbk FCR 39mm 198main adjustable fuel screw 400ex boot raptor petcock Cams stage 2 hotcams New stock valves(oops) oh well DRZ-e kit trail tech -16oz flywheel Moose Racing clutch kit w HD Springs Dyna NP CDI port and polish Spectre air filter(WOW) Airbox delete Full yoshi offroad exhaust 13tooth front 42 aluminum rear ITP wheels front&rear DG bars ALBA nerfs Full skids maxxis 4snows NEED: +4 stroker crank +2 or+4 swinger Last edited by gbk 1978; 11-06-2011 at 10:33 PM.

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