Rear Axle Swap

Jkolb · 12-05-2011, 12:42 AM

I am new on here and looking for advice on if i should buy a quad.
It is a 2004 z400 It has a Brand new motor and tranny. 12:1 piston, regeared for racing, new carb, full alba exhaust system, k&n intake system, brand new hole shot tires. This is what the guy says, i know him and think i trust him but dont know enough about all this to decide. He says it needs a new axle shaft and a new rim and it will be ready to go. I have seen pictures of it and can go look at it but have not yet. He wants $1000 for it. It seems like a sweet deal but i dont know how the axle swap would be. I am bright enough to figure out the basic stuff. So if i could get some advice if that is a big process or doable. Someone let me know from the info i have.
Thanks..

sd1 · 12-05-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jkolb

I am new on here and looking for advice on if i should buy a quad.
It is a 2004 z400 It has a Brand new motor and tranny. 12:1 piston, regeared for racing, new carb, full alba exhaust system, k&n intake system, brand new hole shot tires. This is what the guy says, i know him and think i trust him but dont know enough about all this to decide. He says it needs a new axle shaft and a new rim and it will be ready to go. I have seen pictures of it and can go look at it but have not yet. He wants $1000 for it. It seems like a sweet deal but i dont know how the axle swap would be. I am bright enough to figure out the basic stuff. So if i could get some advice if that is a big process or doable. Someone let me know from the info i have.
Thanks..

define "new" motor...is it just a new piston and rings or actually all new cylinder/cams/piston etc?...and define a "new" lower end? is everything new or just a new crank? or maybe a new clutch? ...swapping out for a new axle isnt to bad, but is thier more damage there than just the axle?..is the swingarm cracked?..are the axle bearings cooked?..what caused the axle to get bent in the first place?....lot of things to check on the quad including to see if the frame is bent.....1000 seems great but their could be a lot of underlying problems on it.....take someone with you that knows quads very very well and look it over...my 2 cents

Jkolb · 12-05-2011, 01:17 AM

looks like ill have to get more info because thats all i know, i have some pictures i could put up to show how the axle looks but im sure the doesnt give enough to say so or no. It was rolled. He says he can still ride it its just a rough ride. Ill take someone with me to check it out. Thanks, I didnt think about the frame, bearings, etc.

sd1 · 12-05-2011, 01:23 AM

id go look it over if its not to far away and take a boatload of pics from every angle and post them on here...... again 1000 seems like a great deal but something tells me their is more to it than what he is saying....its not always the case but i just dont want to see you get taken... or wind up with a money pit

Jkolb · 12-05-2011, 01:27 AM

Sounds good, ill try to get some on here in the next few days.
Thanks for the help.

sd1 · 12-05-2011, 01:33 AM

good luck...and when you get the pics post them in the 'suzukiloft' forum section ...you will get more traffic there and more advice ...few people come to the faq section

sandman74 · 12-08-2011, 10:59 AM

Yeah I agree "Brand New" is a pretty loose term, unless he has receipts and such to prove the cases were split and the motor was taken COMPLETELY apart and gone through (or if he is an experienced mechanic himself) it is tough to say a 2004 motor is brand new, but he does say "new trans" so maybe that is the case. Either way rolling one hard enough to bend the axle usually tweaks other stuff too so get some detailed pics or try take someone you know and trust to look it over carefully. $1000 is great deal if its just the axle, but is it needs $2000 worth of work and chassis parts, not such a great deal.....

Jkolb · 12-10-2011, 12:26 AM

So what's the the most I could put into it worst case to still get my money's worth??

'04 LTZ Racer · 12-14-2011, 01:15 PM

The worst could be a bent frame or a trashed rear end. But in my opinion I would do it because if the engine work was actually done, it's worth that in parts.

12-05-2011, 12:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jkolb :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Twain Harte, CA Posts: 602	Rear Axle Swap I am new on here and looking for advice on if i should buy a quad. It is a 2004 z400 It has a Brand new motor and tranny. 12:1 piston, regeared for racing, new carb, full alba exhaust system, k&n intake system, brand new hole shot tires. This is what the guy says, i know him and think i trust him but dont know enough about all this to decide. He says it needs a new axle shaft and a new rim and it will be ready to go. I have seen pictures of it and can go look at it but have not yet. He wants $1000 for it. It seems like a sweet deal but i dont know how the axle swap would be. I am bright enough to figure out the basic stuff. So if i could get some advice if that is a big process or doable. Someone let me know from the info i have. Thanks..

12-08-2011, 10:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
sandman74 :::Vinson Rider...wtf?::: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 705	Yeah I agree "Brand New" is a pretty loose term, unless he has receipts and such to prove the cases were split and the motor was taken COMPLETELY apart and gone through (or if he is an experienced mechanic himself) it is tough to say a 2004 motor is brand new, but he does say "new trans" so maybe that is the case. Either way rolling one hard enough to bend the axle usually tweaks other stuff too so get some detailed pics or try take someone you know and trust to look it over carefully. $1000 is great deal if its just the axle, but is it needs $2000 worth of work and chassis parts, not such a great deal..... __________________ Trinity Stage 4 full exhaust, UNI filter w/ DIY powerlid, 400EX airboot, FCR39, R&D fuel screw, DRZe kit, Yoshimura Cams, Motion Pro Twist throttle, Pro Taper bars, YFZ calipers, TRX master cylinder, KX clutch perch, KTM lines, Acerbis hand guards, TrailTech Vapor, aluminum radiator shrouds, aluminum heal guards, bossbearing DLR conversion, ZX6 LED tail-light, full PRM skids and bumper, ITP's w/GNCC's, Laegers +2, Houser +1.25 Last edited by sandman74; 12-08-2011 at 11:11 AM.

12-14-2011, 01:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
'04 LTZ Racer :::Ozark 250 rider::: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Warren, PA Posts: 285	The worst could be a bent frame or a trashed rear end. But in my opinion I would do it because if the engine work was actually done, it's worth that in parts. __________________ 2005 YFZ450 Pro Armor Revolution Nerfs Pro Armor XC Front Bumper Pro Taper Bars Stage 3 Hot Cams Hot Rods Crank Wiseco Piston Maxxis Razr II's Big Thanks To All Of the People Who Have Helped Me Over The Years: Mom And Dad Grandpa And Grandma Tom Carlson At TC Racing Nate McNett At McNett Performance ~In Loving Memory Of Dave Morelli, Thanks Grandpa~

12-05-2011, 01:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jkolb :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Twain Harte, CA Posts: 602	looks like ill have to get more info because thats all i know, i have some pictures i could put up to show how the axle looks but im sure the doesnt give enough to say so or no. It was rolled. He says he can still ride it its just a rough ride. Ill take someone with me to check it out. Thanks, I didnt think about the frame, bearings, etc.

12-05-2011, 01:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
sd1 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 803	id go look it over if its not to far away and take a boatload of pics from every angle and post them on here...... again 1000 seems like a great deal but something tells me their is more to it than what he is saying....its not always the case but i just dont want to see you get taken... or wind up with a money pit

12-05-2011, 01:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jkolb :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Twain Harte, CA Posts: 602	Sounds good, ill try to get some on here in the next few days. Thanks for the help.

12-05-2011, 01:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
sd1 :::LT250 Rider::: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 803	good luck...and when you get the pics post them in the 'suzukiloft' forum section ...you will get more traffic there and more advice ...few people come to the faq section

12-10-2011, 12:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jkolb :::Eiger Rider::: Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Twain Harte, CA Posts: 602	So what's the the most I could put into it worst case to still get my money's worth??

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