China quads?

BigMikesZ · 12-07-2011, 10:14 PM

Ok, this is a Z forum, but anyone here have any experience with "china quads"? Santa brought my son a Hensim 250 atv for xmass last year, and I been having fits with it!

Its been making vibrations over 4k rpm,can't identify where its coming from?

atv4life95 · 12-07-2011, 10:24 PM

Dude, it's chinese. You should be thankful it hasn't blown up on you yet for no apparent reason...

beaverclever02 · 12-07-2011, 10:27 PM

MIne has had a 110 for almost a year now with no problems and we bought it used. You just have to be very good about your maintenence. Is it like a pulsating vibe or just constant

sd1 · 12-07-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by atv4life95

dude, it's chinese. You should be thankful it hasn't blown up on you yet for no apparent reason...

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beaverclever02 · 12-07-2011, 10:37 PM

Not saying your wrong, my brother has two one junk and the other not as junky, but mine runs almost everyday about like this

atv4life95 · 12-07-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beaverclever02

Not saying your wrong, my brother has two one junk and the other not as junky, but mine runs almost everyday about like this

"Daddy, get me some better shocks!"

beaverclever02 · 12-07-2011, 10:46 PM

They are all junk. even the new ones..........OK,OK,OK, I can see where this is going, but for a starter they are not bad. Ihave not heard anything about the big ones. I'm now looking for a name brand 90, like honda, but really want a Suzuki. That way we can customize as he grows

spize909 · 12-07-2011, 11:09 PM

I'd have to say that the suspension on the BMS 110 we had was pretty darn good for what it was. Would I buy another China quad....hell no but at the time it got my son started and with some loctite and welding we kept it going pretty good. I sold it to a guy inour group and it pretty much fell apart during a ride to Oldmobile Hill and that was the end of it. Had he done all the things I told him it may still be running today.

As for the vibration.......could likely be coming from the engine. Can't imagine there parts are very precision and that crank could be wobblin all over the place.
Take off evey nut and bolt you can and loctite or lock nut them.

BigMikesZ · 12-07-2011, 11:14 PM

well, My daughter has a jcl 110, and I must say that litle thing is pretty durable! kinda like working on a chainsaw. It had issues being a battery-eater, but I fixed it (cut wire to "do-it all remote start-remote kill black box"), but this Full-size 250 is a dog and a half (not that I've ever ridden any 250, but it seems to have about 10 horse)

BigMikesZ · 12-07-2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spize909

I'd have to say that the suspension on the BMS 110 we had was pretty darn good for what it was. Would I buy another China quad....hell no but at the time it got my son started and with some loctite and welding we kept it going pretty good. I sold it to a guy inour group and it pretty much fell apart during a ride to Oldmobile Hill and that was the end of it. Had he done all the things I told him it may still be running today.

As for the vibration.......could likely be coming from the engine. Can't imagine there parts are very precision and that crank could be wobblin all over the place.
Take off evey nut and bolt you can and loctite or lock nut them.

I'm wondering if it could be something around the starter shaft in the tranny? I checked the valve lash, and topend, all seems good. The oil was soot black and greyish when I changed it, its only got around 15 hrs on it.

atv4life95 · 12-07-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMikesZ

well, My daughter has a jcl 110, and I must say that litle thing is pretty durable! kinda like working on a chainsaw. It had issues being a battery-eater, but I fixed it (cut wire to "do-it all remote start-remote kill black box"), but this Full-size 250 is a dog and a half (not that I've ever ridden any 250, but it seems to have about 10 horse)

All 250cc quads are dogs, except for the Raptor. I used to have one.. I'd be willing to say that it was about as fast as my stock Z was..
That and the Apex 250 (YZ250F motor put in a completely custom made quad) are the only fast 250 4 stroke quads out there

2talltim · 12-08-2011, 04:07 AM

if the paint starts to chip dont eat it, there is lead in it..

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biggiej42 · 12-08-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by atv4life95

All 250cc quads are dogs, except for the Raptor. I used to have one.. I'd be willing to say that it was about as fast as my stock Z was..
That and the Apex 250 (YZ250F motor put in a completely custom made quad) are the only fast 250 4 stroke quads out there

Raptor 250 can't even come close to the stock z..... It's just as much as dog as any other 250, but for a small kid, it's just fine.

Cant comment on the apex.

atv4life95 · 12-08-2011, 10:54 PM

Have you ever ridden a raptor 250 biggs? They're pretty damn light weighing in at only 330lbs and have more HP than any other 250 (besides the apex).. I swear that thing was just as fast as my stock Z was and all I had done to it was an open air box with a uni filter, jetting, and one of those cheesy little billet exhaust tips for the stock exhaust. I would do second gear wheelies left and right on that thing

yOGi420™ · 12-09-2011, 01:49 AM

as fast as a stock z???

yeah right!!! That all I'm going say.....

12-07-2011, 10:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigMikesZ :::Ozark 250 rider::: Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 291	China quads? Ok, this is a Z forum, but anyone here have any experience with "china quads"? Santa brought my son a Hensim 250 atv for xmass last year, and I been having fits with it! Its been making vibrations over 4k rpm,can't identify where its coming from? __________________ '05 Z400; Full Blue HMF system, DID cam chain, Old School Hotcams,13T front sprocket, Full Pro Armor skids and Nerfs To Come: 434 BBK, Fcr39, 400ex boot, Drz Valve Springs, KibbleWhite's...

12-07-2011, 10:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
atv4life95 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: May 2011 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 1,245	Dude, it's chinese. You should be thankful it hasn't blown up on you yet for no apparent reason... __________________ 2003 Suzuki Z400 - SOLD Fully Worked & Race Ready, '98 Yamaha YZ125 - My New Toy

12-07-2011, 10:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
beaverclever02 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Holt, Mo Posts: 1,742	MIne has had a 110 for almost a year now with no problems and we bought it used. You just have to be very good about your maintenence. Is it like a pulsating vibe or just constant __________________ 03 Z400, Fly Aluma Steel Bars, Blob removed, fly kill switch, ASV levers, Power Madd hand gaurds, MQ park brake block, DG O-series pipe with Curtis sparks header, Pro Armor full nerfs with heel gaurd, CST Ambush Front and Rears, GBC Sand shark and shark fins on douglas blue label, No lid,pro design air filter, no snorkel, 6000k HID conversion, procom cdi, 06 ressie shocks, FCR39 tuned.

12-07-2011, 10:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
beaverclever02 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Holt, Mo Posts: 1,742	Not saying your wrong, my brother has two one junk and the other not as junky, but mine runs almost everyday about like this __________________ 03 Z400, Fly Aluma Steel Bars, Blob removed, fly kill switch, ASV levers, Power Madd hand gaurds, MQ park brake block, DG O-series pipe with Curtis sparks header, Pro Armor full nerfs with heel gaurd, CST Ambush Front and Rears, GBC Sand shark and shark fins on douglas blue label, No lid,pro design air filter, no snorkel, 6000k HID conversion, procom cdi, 06 ressie shocks, FCR39 tuned.

12-07-2011, 10:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
beaverclever02 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Holt, Mo Posts: 1,742	They are all junk. even the new ones..........OK,OK,OK, I can see where this is going, but for a starter they are not bad. Ihave not heard anything about the big ones. I'm now looking for a name brand 90, like honda, but really want a Suzuki. That way we can customize as he grows __________________ 03 Z400, Fly Aluma Steel Bars, Blob removed, fly kill switch, ASV levers, Power Madd hand gaurds, MQ park brake block, DG O-series pipe with Curtis sparks header, Pro Armor full nerfs with heel gaurd, CST Ambush Front and Rears, GBC Sand shark and shark fins on douglas blue label, No lid,pro design air filter, no snorkel, 6000k HID conversion, procom cdi, 06 ressie shocks, FCR39 tuned.

12-07-2011, 11:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
spize909 :::Get a life! You're over 5000 posts::: Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,264	I'd have to say that the suspension on the BMS 110 we had was pretty darn good for what it was. Would I buy another China quad....hell no but at the time it got my son started and with some loctite and welding we kept it going pretty good. I sold it to a guy inour group and it pretty much fell apart during a ride to Oldmobile Hill and that was the end of it. Had he done all the things I told him it may still be running today. As for the vibration.......could likely be coming from the engine. Can't imagine there parts are very precision and that crank could be wobblin all over the place. Take off evey nut and bolt you can and loctite or lock nut them. __________________ 2005 Z-400 Mine *January* *2011 QOTM* 2004 Z-400 Brad'Z *October 2011 QOTM* http://www.suzukicentral.com/forums/...tm-winner.html 2004 Z-400 Wife's 1996 Sandsprite IV (sandrail) MINE Sponsors: Coors Light.............I sponsor them! *Life is tough...........it's tougher if you're stupid.*

12-07-2011, 11:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigMikesZ :::Ozark 250 rider::: Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 291	well, My daughter has a jcl 110, and I must say that litle thing is pretty durable! kinda like working on a chainsaw. It had issues being a battery-eater, but I fixed it (cut wire to "do-it all remote start-remote kill black box"), but this Full-size 250 is a dog and a half (not that I've ever ridden any 250, but it seems to have about 10 horse) __________________ '05 Z400; Full Blue HMF system, DID cam chain, Old School Hotcams,13T front sprocket, Full Pro Armor skids and Nerfs To Come: 434 BBK, Fcr39, 400ex boot, Drz Valve Springs, KibbleWhite's...

12-08-2011, 04:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
2talltim :::Mini LT50 Rider::: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fredericktown, Ohio Posts: 69	if the paint starts to chip dont eat it, there is lead in it..:

12-08-2011, 10:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
atv4life95 :::LT500 Rider::: Join Date: May 2011 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 1,245	Have you ever ridden a raptor 250 biggs? They're pretty damn light weighing in at only 330lbs and have more HP than any other 250 (besides the apex).. I swear that thing was just as fast as my stock Z was and all I had done to it was an open air box with a uni filter, jetting, and one of those cheesy little billet exhaust tips for the stock exhaust. I would do second gear wheelies left and right on that thing __________________ 2003 Suzuki Z400 - SOLD Fully Worked & Race Ready, '98 Yamaha YZ125 - My New Toy

12-09-2011, 01:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
yOGi420™ :::Official Spammer::: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Gateway To The Dunes, Cen Cal Posts: 3,338	as fast as a stock z??? yeah right!!! That all I'm going say..... __________________ Click Here To See My Rides Need to install: RatStack Flex Jet FCR-39 from 450 Outlaw Honda Thumb Throttle/Cable 400ex Air Boot DID 520 ERT2 Chain Raptor 660 Petcock IMS 4g Fuel Tank DRZe Kit Ferrea Valves Dynatech NP CDI Web Cams 539/539+3 Quick Change Clutch Cover Factory Machined Athena 434 BBK CP 94mm 12.5:1 Piston 07 LT Z400 (Mine) 04 Kawasaki KFX 400 (My Back Up) 07 Can Am DS 250 (Oldest Son's) 07 Yamaha Raptor 50 (Youngest son) 07 Yamaha TT R50 (A Fun Little Toy)

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