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post #31 of 43 (permalink) Old 04-21-2013, 03:14 AM
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Hate to revive an old thread but what is the 100% solution here? (kfxguy got lucky) spize did your setup work? and do you have any recommendations for someone that maybe doesn't have that kind of resources to have a nice flat piece of aluminum laying around?

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It's still on there and works fine.
Maybe I will fab up a few of those brackets someday.......other then that, try to find and old road sign or go to a metal place and buy a piece of aluminum. I bent it in the vice (you can see the teeth marks) and just used a hammer to roll that top edge.

As for KFXguy.........he has some new ideas to check out that may be a better solution.

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ya that hose looks sick and wrong

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Ok I am going to resurrect a 3 year old thread. This seems to be the more detailed thread that I have found. From what I have searched there have been no other updates of this mod since this thread.

I know KFXguy installed a breather on his quad and at times was having trouble with some seepage. Spize has his relocated which I see works well for him. But.....

I have to relocate mine because I modified the ACCT to a MCCT and now the black box will not fit. I looked at the hoses and found the one hose that runs to the front of the quad is piped back into the oil tank.

This leads me to my first question:

Why do you need a breather at the end of the line when it is plumed back into the oil tank? Secondly why is the black box needed in the first place? Why not just go from the crankcase T into the top of the valve cover and then T back into the hose for the oil tank? Am I missing something here?


Additionally, I found a write up where someone had made an inline filter with wire scouring pad using washers and larger hose, but can't remember where I found that.
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Sorry, I didn't know this was my first post...I have been lurking for so long I thought I had been posting. Thanks in advance for the help. So far this forum has helped me out a lot.
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I did my own form of a black box delete. I don't have pictures handy, but I can get some. I got some silicone hose from the local truck shop, and ran the 2 hoses from the engine up in front of the steering neck. Up there, I "T" them together and put a filter on it.

This has worked pretty well for me. Occasionally if I would bounce off the limiter enough, it would ooze a little. Nothing that wrapping a rag around it didn't fix.


The reason that it works is because with 2 lines going up there instead of just one, the air velocity in those lines is cut in half, and has less power behind it to carry oil with it.
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IF you have a port that goes into the oil tank why put a filter on it in the first place? What did you do with the hose that goes into the top of the oil tank?
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IF you have a port that goes into the oil tank why put a filter on it in the first place? What did you do with the hose that goes into the top of the oil tank?
Leave that one alone. It needs to be connected from the oil tank to the valve cover to keep the oil tank and crank case pressure the same.
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Ok, using Spize's thread as somewhat of a guide, I decided to move my "Black Box" to the left side of the motor just behind the Coolant reservoir ...


I was originally going to do something very similar to Spize's Alum plate, but didn't have any so I came up with this set up - Basically it's a piece of 1" or inch and a 1/4 Flat Bar that is approx. 1/8" or maybe 3/16" in thickness.


I'm going to run all of the hoses tonight and get everything all dialed in.


If anybody see's any problem with they way I'm doing this,.. please speak up


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Ok so last night I finished up routing my Black Box hoses - I ended up using some 1/2 ID Air Hose from Lowes that just happened to be Flor. Green

We'll see how it holds up to the crank case fumes and oil - But I'm thinking it'll be ok since a lot of folks use inline air oilers for air tools... (???)

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i like how you used brass PEX fittings, would look a lot cleaner if you used brass PEX crimp on rings instead of the hose clamps
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You'd need that special crimper do-hickey though to do it. It would look clean though!

I couldn't open the pix the other day on my work computer. Came out great.

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Yeah,.. it would look a little neater I suppose,.. but I'm going to order some more of the factory type spring clamps for ease of removal and what not...
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