I went out to my uncles the yesterday, and we were bringing the Z and the Polaris 700...We wanted to bring both without having to put the quad rack on. What we did was put the Z in first, and stant it on the grab bar and slid it until the tires hit the back of the bed. We strapped it down. We then put the 700 in the back with the tires on the tailgate, the middle of the tires where on the space between the tailgate and bed so we had a few inches of tailgate left. We will probably be doing this again, and Im posting it to let people know if you have an 8ft long bed truck and a tailgate, they can get a Z and a big utiltiy quad in the back...