Atleast some honda rims are a bit thicker in the center area and this doesnt allow for all the thread to be in contact with the stud. I thought I noticed this with aftermarket rims but wasnt sure. Aparently the studs are a bit shorter than on a honda. Anyway I went to put on my xc holesthots that were on honda rims and had noticed they had been moved at my parents house from where I put them. My dad or brother must have run over one of the fronts with the bobcat or a tractor or something because its bent to the point of being junk and it wasnt like that the last time it was on a quad, no other quads to put it on either.